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@GOmar Yeah, OK.

@GOmar It absolutely doesn't look exactly the same as OutRun? The only way it's like OutRun is in the way that Lotus was like OutRun, or Top Racer was the same as OutRun.

And I don't think it's fair to judge the eventual game on what is an early peek at some cool, and obviously early, technology. You're talking about it like it's finished.

I guess Earthion is redundant too. And ZPF.

Also, I guess my beef is that I just really don't like watching people piss on indie passion-projects that are obvious labours of love. If it's not for you, move on, but... eh.

@GOmar Definitely not unnecessary. Proper raster-style arcade racing games for retro consoles are relatively unexplored territory - it's always good to see more arcade racers.

By that kind of reasoning, we've got Pitfall, so why bother playing any other platform game ever?

Yeah, those curves seem like a proof-of-concept so far. It's quite obviously still a WIP, because there was literally no track design, just some curves to show off the scrolling.

But this looks great, and is the exact genre I've been hanging out for for AGES!

Love the colours, and again, the scrolling looks nice and smooth already. Really hanging out for this one!

@KitsuneNight That's the fun of it - the rabbit hole, haha!

Ahh well, fair enough - it'll always be there for you if you decide to give it a crack one day

YouTube a few best-of lists (Kim Justice has some pretty amazing Amiga coverage) and you'll be on your way.

On a side note, I've almost entirely stopped playing new games, well at least those that aren't in the retro-vein. Large libraries like this that I'm working my way through slowly actually keep me gaming.

If it weren't for retro gaming, retro game hacks, new games for retro systems or indie games that are like retro games, there'd not be a whole lot out there for me any more!

@KitsuneNight You're missing out, the Amiga had some amazing games and an awesome overall vibe.

Maybe try the demo on an emulator?

Man, I love the Amiga

@Azuris It's laggy on even PC. And I've never used bluetooth audio on the Switch ever, mine is used 100% docked.

To be honest though, I refuse to use any Bluetooth controller these days anyways. There are better Bluetooth controllers than any of the the 8bitdo units in regards to lag (the best I've found on Switch were the BigBig Won Blitz and the PXN 9607x), but over the years, I've come to despise it as a controller technology - if a controller doesn't come with a 2.4ghz dongle, then it's out for me.

@Blast16 Pairing used to be an issue, but not these days. Other than that, it'll be the Bluetooth lag that gets you - they're some of the slowest controllers I've ever experienced on the Switch, either wired or wireless.

Which is a shame, because they are perfect otherwise. I love the amazing build quality, buttons, d-pad and all the rest.

They really need to get onto a 2.4ghz variant.

@vfXander I've been playing a lot of SEGA Rally Online Arcade lately, and the Desert 95 mode is my favourite.

I pump the OG Sat OST via USB and TT away

@ch37x It is indeed great news!

Although, not particularly odd, since it's a fan-patch

@GOmar I apologize for assuming. Most of the time it's an internet way of passive-aggressively telling people to basically love it or leave it, I definitely read it wrong then.

And I don't feel like I should support them that way. I mean, I have in the past: I backed Mikael Tillander's Tanzer on Kickstarter years ago, and I'm a big fan; we got digital copies with that too. I've also purchased most of the games Mega Cat Studios has physically on their site via Itch or other means, which is why I'm not a fan of this wave of suddenly making things physical only.

Physical games are great, but also I feel even the retro development community is reaching a point where it's quite obviously exploiting people, their nostalgia, and their love of just buying things and accumulating stuff.

It just rubs me the wrong way, I guess.

My issues with this are beyond gaming though, and is a global thing that drives me crazy in general, though.

Basically, what I'm saying is that I'd love a ROM option in the Kickstarter to legitimately support the devs. If they don't want a distribute a ROM file out there themselves, then that is their prerogative, but somebody else will do it for sure. I'd rather just not play the game that way. We should have learned the lessons of that whole thing already.

@GOmar Why highlight 'plastic and cardboard' like I'm the one in the wrong for not wanting them? Retro gamers come in many different shapes and forms these days, and I've gone from a physical collector to preferring to keep a mostly platform-agnostic digital library.

Also, that's a convoluted way of helping them out and getting access to the rom. Admittedly one I've thought of, but it just feels wrong to wait for a ROM dump when I could have had the option to just straight-up pay for a ROM myself.

Ultimately, it's their decision in how they choose to distribute their game. I'll wait and see if they end up offering the ROM file for purchase after the fact, but if not, then I can definitely live without the game; no FOMO here.

@Nahhhtendo My house is a single story and 688 square feet, by design. I already have space for what matters, my laptop, handheld machines, an Xbox 360 with a 2TB HD attached and couple of DS units and a Switch

@belmont Yep, I'm out too. Which is a shame, because I'm generally not shmup fan, but I really, really loved my time with the ZPF demo rom.

I have a few handheld emulation machines and that's how I choose to get my retro fix these days. I'm pretty minimalist in general at this stage of my life, and have mostly sold off my large physical collection because I live in what is basically a Tiny House now.

I'd love to support the team, but not all of us want shelves and walls stacked with plastic and paper just to play video games :/

@PopetheRev28 Hotshot Racing was almost amazing. That AI sucked all the fun out of the game. I felt like I was racing in a pack the entire time.

A real shame, because everything else was absolutely spot-on.

@vfXander This is great to hear. When will another demo be released? I'd love to give it a crack!

Also, I'd love to do a remix for the game - SEGA Rally is one of my favourite game soundtracks, and I know it off by heart

Literally my favourite game of ALL TIME. I do hope this can shake the typical Unreal Engine look though, and really take on a SEGA Rally vibe. The whole charm was in the hand-crafted tracks and their iconic scenery. I really dislike the look of stuff like UE5's nanite, because it just screams procedural generation. I know it is, but I dunno, I guess it looks sterile to me. Although, at least I can tell which parts of which track each of these featured screen shots are - that's promising!

I did actually try the 2022 demo, and it ran like garbage on my gaming laptop back then, so I'm hoping it was an optimization issue and UE5 will run on my laptop

Also, please please PLEASE nail the physics, and base them on SRC. I don't even think any of the rally sequels got near the OG handling, despite being a lot of fun!

As a gay dude, I miss the days when characters of all sexes were unapologetically going for sex appeal. By making characters more true to life, they're looking lazy, boring and forgettable to me. Besides, real people irritate me these days, why would I want them in video games I play?

So yup, not a fan of the new Joanna. I have a soft spot for early 2000s Joanna, because the Y2K styling was ON POINT, haha!

@PopetheRev28 You are correct

@PopetheRev28 I'm pretty sure that track was only on the Soundtrack CD and not in the actual game. Most of the music from the first WipEout soundtrack CD wasn't in the game at all!

But that brings me to the point that those soundtrack CDs were godly, and absolutely shaped my music tastes as a high-school kid

This is amazing. I'm all down for Nightdive doing whatever they want - I'll be here on day one for both games. The Thing is an brilliant game too, I used to own it on OG Xbox.

On a related note, I can't believe people had the nerve to complain about PO'ed being released instead of 'something good'. Preservation isn't just for those top games. PO'ed is actually playable and fun now, thanks to the remaster.

It wasn't released in place of other games, it came out in addition to the other stuff they have cooking.

Love Nightdive and I'll be picking up each and every game they do. It's like they know my exact gaming tastes

EDIT: Killing Time now has High-Res sprites, and they look even sharper than the 3DO version! It now looks like the screenshots/bullshots that they promoted the game with in Next Generation magazine back in the day! So cool!!!

@romanista Fully agree with this.

@honuk Then buy an RGB30? It's exactly what you're after.

@Gridatttack

Yeah, this is even better than the main game. It's gorgeous on my RGB30 (I've yet to try it on my new RG35XXSP), the course design is truly excellent (lots of flow) the music is awesome and I'm in love <3

@honuk Is this really true? Because I've never, ever had a SEGA controller conk out on me. Be it Mega Drive or Saturn, or any other to be honest; they all still work. I haven't heard of it either.

Just for the unit with no games, it's under $100 AUD from Ali Express, which I find quite insane. Totally in the realm of a day-one , no-brainer insta-purchase for me.

I'm prepping an SD with the entire GBA library for its' arrival

This looked great, but I tried the demo and hated it.

This kind of gimmicky FPS game is definitely not for me. The aesthetic is very nice, but I don't think the constant visual crazy thrown at your eyeballs is actually in keeping with its inspirations; these Anime Cyberpunk 90s classics had a lot of down-time inbetween the visceral over-the-top bits, and this has none of that.

Also, the gameplay just does nothing for me. A bit of a shame, really!

Yeah, that character design is completely off-putting for me... it's a shame, because technically it looks great.

But those with this kink look well served

@Sketcz Noooooo, Redbook is UNDERATED!!!

Seriously, I love chip-tunes, but I love Redbook more; it's a snapshot of a certain golden era of 80s and 90s Synthesizers, Samplers, Drum Machines and MIDI modules.

It's probably why I love the Mega Drive sound chip so much, because it sounds so much like a DX-7

@KitsuneNight Yeah, the FOMO is right there in the company name - Limited Run Games.

Limited Run basically turned me off Physical media. I kinda figured if the only real choice we have to nab physical copies of games was a company quite obviously and shamelessly capitalizing on the death of physical gaming media, then I'd rather just go all digital.

I've been going more and more minimalist these days generally, and GOG, ROM and ISO collections are the ultimate in preservation anyways, so I think it's more fun to find devices you can tinker with and play ALL your games on. I've even still got ROMS floating around on a hard drive somewhere that I downloaded when I was in High School...

I think finding suitable controllers take you most of the way there anyways. 8bitDo and Retro-Bit have the PSX, SNES and SEGA Experiences down pretty well.

There's definitely something to be said for the original hardware experience, but I'll always have those memories and that is enough for me.

That was the long way of saying that I've never trusted Limited Run Games and their overt exploitation of the last bastion of gamers who want to hold onto physical media

I love to tinker, so as soon as an FPGA solution comes out that is affordable AND lets me customize the look to make it look like a legitimate console (similar to the mini Mega Drive & SNES cases for Raspberry Pi units), then I'll be all over it.

At the moment though, it is prohibitively expensive to get into, and I get absolutely fine results from software emulation, so I don't feel like the cost is worth it to jump on board just yet.

@ShawnS A native PC port with high framerates and configurable controls would be awesome!

Never heard this particular soundtrack until I just checked it out on YouTube, but yeah, it's pretty amazing!

The OST had me at 'Map'

Absolutely drop-dead gorgeous. I am really looking forward to this, it's looking so faithful to the franchise.

Yeah, this is great, and still super impressive to this day.

I also remember the UK Press completely ripping on this and the sequel back in the day in all the mags. They were whipping boys for some reason, which I never understood, because whilst they weren't amazing racers, both were definitely good enough.

@jbrodack Agreed. FPGA emulation HASN'T revolutionized retro gaming. Ripping ROMS and ISOS and using Software Emulation did, way back in the 90s. Because of those things, flash carts are possible. I'd argue that dedicated handheld emulation machines have revolutionized retro gaming too. So many options to have 100,000 + retro games on your person at any one time.

FPGA hardware emulation is amazing, but definitely isn't as user-friendly as software emulation solutions, and has yet to reach any point of critical mass.

And if all this in-fighting is an indication, it'll take a while for that to happen.

Agree with Lara - she was absolutely everywhere, and hasn't really let up with games or movies. But she could easily be interchangeable with Mario, Sonic or Pikachu. The rest of the list though? There's some bizarre choices in there. Sackboy???

Looks great, but I'd love to see this without the HD-2D filters, effects and lighting. If it was straight-up 2D sprites in a 3D engine, I think it would look brilliant. I'm always a fan of that SEGA Saturn/PSX style

@mariteaux Spell Effects for an RPG would be a good one! 😁

Very early footage, but it's very impressive so far. If he can keep the framerate where it is right now, then yeah, I'm all for this

This is FANTASTIC news for NES owners. I'll never own a physical unit again, but opening up new controller options and all the rest is brilliant for NES fans

Aaaand I haven't stopped playing it in all those 30 years.

From the Arcade, to the Saturn ports/versions, the Dreamcast game, the Xbox 360 port and also via Model 2 Emulator, I've never not had Daytona on tap.

Classic gameplay, timeless visuals and tech and amazing music; I'd say Daytona is in a class of its own, but SEGA Rally Championship also exists

@_NetNomad Yeah, it totally looks very Dreamcast to me with the higher-res sprites!

This looks amazing; I'll jump on this when it goes early access. It looks like it plays well, so I'm pretty hopeful!

Yeah, this looks AWESOME! From Steel Talons (on the Lynx) to all the shareware flight sims I tried to play when I was younger, this looks like it'll hit a very specific spot.

Wishlisted instantly.

The easiest 60-odd comments ever

@alexybubble Didn't know they had a Discord, will check it out! And thanks for the info

This definitely sucks though, one of the few genuinely great sites on the internet. An absolute treasure trove of forgotten gems and hacks that deserve to be out there and loved by everybody.

@wiiware not if you're into 80s/90s anime it isn't!

Not really surprising, since that whole Top 10 is GOLD. SEGA Rally would be my number 1, for sure.

There's too many games I love for me to make a Top 10. Keio Flying Squadron 2 would definitely be Top 3 , though!

The most successful was obviously the Mega Drive, but my number one will always be the Saturn.

The Saturn had an amazing software library. People talk ***** on the PAL experience, but I had many, many games I adored... I had more than enough to play during its life-time. Then when I was a little bit older, I got myself a Japanese Saturn and got educated on the Japanese library.

Also, you rarely find it mentioned much these days, but the Redbook CD soundtracks you found on the discs were GOLD. That was as much a part of the experience for me. Making mix-tapes, then mix CDs and finally building MP3 libraries was a whole heap of fun. I'd listen to many of them in my Discman while I was going to sleep. I ripped all my Saturn soundtracks years ago now, and have a huge collection of amazing music. I've even contributed some of them to KH Insider