@The_Nintendo_Pedant You’ve made me laugh with the idea of goons wearing Sega hats knocking at someone’s door 😂 Fair enough bro, let’s see how it pans out
@The_Nintendo_Pedant "hearing about this happening to this person is upsetting for me" what is happening to the person.......according to the person. Because all reports are coming in form the same source.
Not only is it clear we don't know half the facts, it is also clear that we only know selective information coming from one person. The same one who has already asked for pity money in the mean time.
And who exactly from Sega themselves would raid a house? lol
@The_Nintendo_Pedant it would be extremely upseting for you, sure. But it would just be contraband of stolen materials for all of us.
This quote: "SEGA’s position amounts to accusing a charity of theft" is implying a charity wouldn't steal, or that accusing a charity of wrongdoing is beyond reasonable. But if the materials are indeed stolen, the police very much has the right of returning them.
Charity or not, it's clear the middleman is the one in the wrong here. Not Sega, nor the buyer. Even if the buyer got burned a significant amount of money.
The more details that come out the clearer it gets that Sega used services to destroy the items, but they were selling them instead. The source being one of the disgruntled buyers of the illicit materials, using Sega's involvement to stirr up controversy for some donation money.
@gingerbeardman Sega won’t make money back from these items. As per previous reports these items aren’t Sega’s either, they were supposed to be returned to Nintendo. They were thrown out by accident when moving to the new office
(allegedly)
@Arcadia_Official because as many pointed out already, at the time of the NES the rest of Europe was playing computers: Spectrum, Commodore, Amiga. The shift towards consoles came with the Mega Drive.
Again, even if everyone in Finland bought 4 NES consoles, for a total of 20 million sold….it would still just be serving a population of 5 million. That’s like saying “everyone in Barcelona had an Atari Lynx”
@Polvasti with all respect, but Finland, Sweden, etc are very low population countries. I’m saying this coming from a low population country myself (Portugal). Would you see anyone going “humm actually the Ngage was pretty successful, everyone in Estonia had one”?
Nintendo did not hold a candle to Sega’s distribution network in most of Europe at the time. You are the exception
Never played Nintendo as a kid. Nobody i know owned a Nintendo home console until the Gamecube. It’s not unusual, the online american revisionism is strong in this topic
@Gryffin yes. A common example: a parking fine can be rationalised into a mere “parking fee”. If you have enough money, the fine is just tax/price for a privilege (to park where others don’t)
We can only speculate how much games would improve in the later stages of the Dreamcast's natural lifecycle. But it is clear we only got a small taste of what the machine was capable of.
@Daniel36 “what would be better?” The original, definitely. The idea that a localiser can “improve” the game is poison. At most they can make the translation unobtrusive.
Never understood the point of localisations. Translations are 100% superior.
I’d rather have my own interpretation of why something is written in a certain way, than have some pretentious doofus showing me his own vision of what the author meant
@-wc- can't be that old, i'm a millennial as well ahah i've been a lifelong SEGA fan, so i understand what you mean. This isn't Sega Enterprises anymore.
Still, the Atlus RPGs are great, RGG (Yakuza) games are awesome, and even Sonic has come back around. So Sega's in a pretty good spot right now, even for old fans like us imo
@-wc- firstly, RGG is a Sega-made studio. Secondly, Atlus has been a Sega-owned studio for over 10 years, and the games have improved massively in quality and popularity ever since.
Let’s not kid ourselves, if Atlus was underperforming Sega would take the blame, so denying them credit over an excellent job over 10 years is petty
@-wc- weird timing to say this when there’s a Sega game as GOTY contender. Along with a bunch of highly rated popular Sega games released the past couple years
@Ristar24 even this same game was censored on the original home release, that’s not the point. The point is why would you censor it nowadays at all in such minute capacity
@KitsuneNight That's fair. I agree the old designs weren't great either. It's not a character i have ever found appealing, and this redesign won't change my mind :/ But i'm glad other people enjoy it
@KitsuneNight @LadyCharlie
You're both implying i said she wasn't a woman. She is very obviously a woman. I said she doesn't look feminine because of her huge chin, and i don't think the character looks as nice because of it.
Not all feminine looking women are super-models either. You're probably assuming i share the same views of the knuckleheads mentioned in the article. I don't. Doesn't make it obligatory to think the character looks good. Don't think she does, she looks manly now
Never liked her designs. But she looks like a man now. Not very feminine, which was one of the appeals of the character. She’s no longer a femme fatale with that jaw line.
It took Sega a looong time to get back to a great spot like it is today. The massive brain drain caused by dropping out meant Sega had to go through a period of lesser quality before being able to re-establish itself as a top dog again.
MS repositioning itself in the gaming market could potentially have similar consequences. Imagine MS not wanting to invest in new developments and just have a million rotting IPs in the stable. Not that farfetched of an idea
@McShifty1984 one of the most influential games of all time. Like many other games that are considered "the best" it has been surpassed, but doesn't make it any less of an achievement, and it's still a great time today.
@Chinesus he just wanted a girl running around in a bikini, it’s not that deep. Maybe not to the enjoyment of anyone else, but wouldn’t assume someone is a sexpest for what he does in a video game (what would that make of Rockstar creating GTA)
PS: even tho I disagree with your opinion, I understand and respect it
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Re: Company That Cleared Sega's Offices Of "Stolen" Nintendo Dev Kits Is A Charity, New Evidence Reveals
@VGPM is there a need to claim I’m confused, haven’t read it all, haven’t made research ?
The facts presented so far aren’t enough to fully explain the situation, regardless of what the money is being used for.
You’re very obviously fishing for a reaction - you won’t get it from me.
Re: Company That Cleared Sega's Offices Of "Stolen" Nintendo Dev Kits Is A Charity, New Evidence Reveals
@The_Nintendo_Pedant You’ve made me laugh with the idea of goons wearing Sega hats knocking at someone’s door 😂
Fair enough bro, let’s see how it pans out
Re: Company That Cleared Sega's Offices Of "Stolen" Nintendo Dev Kits Is A Charity, New Evidence Reveals
@The_Nintendo_Pedant
"hearing about this happening to this person is upsetting for me"
what is happening to the person.......according to the person. Because all reports are coming in form the same source.
Not only is it clear we don't know half the facts, it is also clear that we only know selective information coming from one person. The same one who has already asked for pity money in the mean time.
And who exactly from Sega themselves would raid a house? lol
Re: Company That Cleared Sega's Offices Of "Stolen" Nintendo Dev Kits Is A Charity, New Evidence Reveals
@The_Nintendo_Pedant it would be extremely upseting for you, sure. But it would just be contraband of stolen materials for all of us.
This quote:
"SEGA’s position amounts to accusing a charity of theft"
is implying a charity wouldn't steal, or that accusing a charity of wrongdoing is beyond reasonable. But if the materials are indeed stolen, the police very much has the right of returning them.
Charity or not, it's clear the middleman is the one in the wrong here. Not Sega, nor the buyer. Even if the buyer got burned a significant amount of money.
Re: "I Still Think The Virtual Boy Was Probably Just Too Ahead Of Its Time" - Japanese Developers On Nintendo's Most Infamous Flop
Other companies flops: "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING IDIOTS"
Nintendo flops: "poor ninty was just so ahead of its time"
Re: Company That Cleared Sega's Offices Of "Stolen" Nintendo Dev Kits Is A Charity, New Evidence Reveals
The more details that come out the clearer it gets that Sega used services to destroy the items, but they were selling them instead.
The source being one of the disgruntled buyers of the illicit materials, using Sega's involvement to stirr up controversy for some donation money.
Such a huge nothingburger
Re: Sega Dev Kit Raid "A Preservation Disaster" For "Collectors, Archivists, And The Gaming Community"
@gingerbeardman Sega won’t make money back from these items. As per previous reports these items aren’t Sega’s either, they were supposed to be returned to Nintendo. They were thrown out by accident when moving to the new office
(allegedly)
Re: Sega Dev Kit Raid "A Preservation Disaster" For "Collectors, Archivists, And The Gaming Community"
“preservation disaster” = not having access to material they didn’t even know existed before
and of course they want money :/
Re: Random: "That's Wild" - The Fact That Two French Devs Didn't Play Nintendo As Kids Appears To Have Upset Some People
@Arcadia_Official because as many pointed out already, at the time of the NES the rest of Europe was playing computers: Spectrum, Commodore, Amiga. The shift towards consoles came with the Mega Drive.
Again, even if everyone in Finland bought 4 NES consoles, for a total of 20 million sold….it would still just be serving a population of 5 million. That’s like saying “everyone in Barcelona had an Atari Lynx”
Re: Random: "That's Wild" - The Fact That Two French Devs Didn't Play Nintendo As Kids Appears To Have Upset Some People
@Polvasti with all respect, but Finland, Sweden, etc are very low population countries. I’m saying this coming from a low population country myself (Portugal).
Would you see anyone going “humm actually the Ngage was pretty successful, everyone in Estonia had one”?
Nintendo did not hold a candle to Sega’s distribution network in most of Europe at the time. You are the exception
Re: Sega Accused Of Using Police To Recover Nintendo Dev Kits It Had "Negligently Disposed Of"
Understand his frustration, but he’s somehow trying to blame it on Sega based on….suspicion. Of course Sega wouldn’t reply to his letters
Re: Random: "That's Wild" - The Fact That Two French Devs Didn't Play Nintendo As Kids Appears To Have Upset Some People
Never played Nintendo as a kid. Nobody i know owned a Nintendo home console until the Gamecube. It’s not unusual, the online american revisionism is strong in this topic
Re: "I Hope Elon Musk Never Googles Me, Because I'll Be Murdered", Says Deus Ex Co-Writer
While this piece is relevant to the website, it boils down to one idiot insulting another idiot for liking a videogame.
I feel it’s hardly political, just happens to be about a two politically obsessed persons
Re: Saturn Version Of Dragon Ball Z: The Legend Now Playable In English
I own this game, it’s pretty cool
Re: CrankBoy Is A Playdate Game Boy Emulator With Impressive Performance
The most impressive bit is people actually buying this junk
Re: Poll: How Do You Pronounce "Amiga"?
Amiga is a portuguese/spanish word. Ah-mee-gah
Re: After Last Month's Leak, Anbernic Presents An Official "First Look" At The Anbernic RG477M
@The_Nintend_Pedant hopefully we’ll get an RG 477F…
Re: Developer Of SNES DOOM Defends The Tech Behind Limited Run's 2025 Update
I hate being online
Re: A Steam Version Of The PS2 Shmup 'Triggerheart Exelica Enhanced' Is On The Way
Didn’t even know there was a PS2 version. To me this is a Dreamcast game
Re: Final Fantasy Tactics Writer Yasumi Matsuno Just Found Out About The Game's Most Famous False Quote
@Gryffin yes. A common example: a parking fine can be rationalised into a mere “parking fee”. If you have enough money, the fine is just tax/price for a privilege (to park where others don’t)
Re: Nintendo Locking A Screen Filter Behind A Console Upgrade Hasn't Gone Down Well With Everyone
New features on the new console?? How DARE they
Re: The Making Of: Samba De Amigo, Sega's Rhythm Action Classic That Nintendo Fell In Love With
Thank you for this interview. One of my all time favourite videogames
Re: Here's How Dreamcast's "Phenomenal" GTA 3 Port Compares To The PS2 Original
We can only speculate how much games would improve in the later stages of the Dreamcast's natural lifecycle.
But it is clear we only got a small taste of what the machine was capable of.
Re: Tokyo Xtreme Racer Hits Steam Early Access Later This Month
@845H definitely arcadey, but plays nothing like Ridge Racer. It's more like a "highway racer rpg"
Re: Random: Here's The Awkward Moment When The Father Of PlayStation Was Left Hanging At The Game Awards
Classic Ken moment, love the guy
Re: Saturn Cult Classic Princess Crown Is Getting An Uncensored Translation
@CO_Andy i have no problem with respecting anyone. This isn’t about respect. I simply expressed my opinion, and you insist on being rude.
I think you’re wrong. If you can’t deal with that it’s on you
Re: Saturn Cult Classic Princess Crown Is Getting An Uncensored Translation
@CO_Andy thanks for your opinion, please be more respectful next time. You don’t know me
Re: Saturn Cult Classic Princess Crown Is Getting An Uncensored Translation
@Daniel36 “what would be better?” The original, definitely. The idea that a localiser can “improve” the game is poison. At most they can make the translation unobtrusive.
Re: Saturn Cult Classic Princess Crown Is Getting An Uncensored Translation
Never understood the point of localisations. Translations are 100% superior.
I’d rather have my own interpretation of why something is written in a certain way, than have some pretentious doofus showing me his own vision of what the author meant
Re: Sega "Pimped Out" On Mallrats Director Kevin Smith Back In 1995
@-wc- can't be that old, i'm a millennial as well ahah
i've been a lifelong SEGA fan, so i understand what you mean. This isn't Sega Enterprises anymore.
Still, the Atlus RPGs are great, RGG (Yakuza) games are awesome, and even Sonic has come back around. So Sega's in a pretty good spot right now, even for old fans like us imo
Re: Sega "Pimped Out" On Mallrats Director Kevin Smith Back In 1995
@-wc- firstly, RGG is a Sega-made studio. Secondly, Atlus has been a Sega-owned studio for over 10 years, and the games have improved massively in quality and popularity ever since.
Let’s not kid ourselves, if Atlus was underperforming Sega would take the blame, so denying them credit over an excellent job over 10 years is petty
Re: Sega "Pimped Out" On Mallrats Director Kevin Smith Back In 1995
@-wc- weird timing to say this when there’s a Sega game as GOTY contender. Along with a bunch of highly rated popular Sega games released the past couple years
Re: SNK Vs. Capcom's Promotional Artwork Has Been Censored To Cover Mai's Modesty
@Ristar24 even this same game was censored on the original home release, that’s not the point.
The point is why would you censor it nowadays at all in such minute capacity
Re: SNK Vs. Capcom's Promotional Artwork Has Been Censored To Cover Mai's Modesty
If it shouldn’t bother anyone because it’s a small change, why did it bother them to commission two different versions in the first place?
There is no defending this. If the argument for it is “why do you even care?”, then there is no argument at all
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Jo's New Look In Perfect Dark?
@KitsuneNight That's fair. I agree the old designs weren't great either. It's not a character i have ever found appealing, and this redesign won't change my mind :/
But i'm glad other people enjoy it
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Jo's New Look In Perfect Dark?
@KitsuneNight @LadyCharlie
You're both implying i said she wasn't a woman. She is very obviously a woman. I said she doesn't look feminine because of her huge chin, and i don't think the character looks as nice because of it.
Not all feminine looking women are super-models either. You're probably assuming i share the same views of the knuckleheads mentioned in the article. I don't. Doesn't make it obligatory to think the character looks good. Don't think she does, she looks manly now
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Jo's New Look In Perfect Dark?
Never liked her designs. But she looks like a man now. Not very feminine, which was one of the appeals of the character. She’s no longer a femme fatale with that jaw line.
Re: $99 MiSTer FPGA Clone Finally Has A Name, And It Hasn't Gone Down Well With Everyone
The name is irrelevant. People are just upset they paid more for the same thing
Re: Three Years On, PS1 ODE PSIO Gets An Update - Along With Some Terrifying DRM
That’s a funny way of killing your product
Re: $13 Mod Makes Sony's PSP Go Useful Again In 2024
Unfortunately it doesn’t fix that it’s a very uncomfortable system to play for any prolonged amount of time :/
Re: To Make Sense Of Xbox Multiplatform Rumours, We Need Only Look To The Past
It took Sega a looong time to get back to a great spot like it is today. The massive brain drain caused by dropping out meant Sega had to go through a period of lesser quality before being able to re-establish itself as a top dog again.
MS repositioning itself in the gaming market could potentially have similar consequences. Imagine MS not wanting to invest in new developments and just have a million rotting IPs in the stable. Not that farfetched of an idea
Re: Who Created Dreamcast's Logo? We Spent A Year Trying To Find Out
@Poodlestargenerica what are you on about, European consoles also had the Sega logo right on the front
Re: A New Shenmue Fangame "Dreams Of Saturn" Has Released Just In Time For Christmas
@McShifty1984 one of the most influential games of all time. Like many other games that are considered "the best" it has been surpassed, but doesn't make it any less of an achievement, and it's still a great time today.
Re: Flashback: When Hideo Kojima Argued Over Policenauts' Bouncing Boobs With Sony
@Chinesus he just wanted a girl running around in a bikini, it’s not that deep. Maybe not to the enjoyment of anyone else, but wouldn’t assume someone is a sexpest for what he does in a video game (what would that make of Rockstar creating GTA)
PS: even tho I disagree with your opinion, I understand and respect it
Re: Flashback: When Hideo Kojima Argued Over Policenauts' Bouncing Boobs With Sony
@Chinesus I don’t think you read the article. The point is that it was a silly concern from Sony, not that he was a “sexpest” (for liking boobs?)
Re: Sega Is "Evaluating" A New Virtua Fighter
@EarthboundBenjy that means you only played the first one
Re: Flashback: How South Park Forced A Tiger Woods 99 Recall
Great read. Had no idea about this!
Re: Poll: What's The Best WipEout?
Sorry bros i just voted 10 on all of them xD
Wipeout 3 and Pure are my all time favorites
Re: Guide: All Yakuza Sega Arcade Minigames
Could also include Shenmue for fun
Re: Sega Resurrects The Iconic "Sega Scream" For Sonic Superstars
@calbeau it was on every commercial. The Sega chant you’re mentioning was only present in Sonic games