@Kalmaro Of course it's related. The argument that I'm making is that if the game is not commercially available to buy anymore then I don't see the problem with people choosing to download it. Nobody is loosing any money in that instance. Let's take another example. I recently wanted to play Metroid Zero Mission again so purchased it on the Wii U Virtual Console as opposed to downloading it. I was happy to do it because in my view that is the right thing to do. If the game is commercially available then I will always buy it. In the case of Iridion 2 the game is not commercially available to buy anywhere. You think I should buy it second hand off ebay (which I may well do) but ultimately whichever option I choose the developer/ publisher will not see a penny. So how is buying it second hand a preferable option to downloading it?
As for the age thing, it could be regarded as patronising and that was not my intention. I just don't think it's for you to lecture people on what's right and what's wrong. You don't have a monopoly on morality and shouldn't pretend otherwise.
@Kalmaro you keep parroting words like 'entitlement' but are completely missing the point. Let's take an example, I have fond memories of playing Iridion II on the GBA and would like to play it again. It's not been released on Wii U Virtual Console or any other platform as far as I'm aware. I therefore have two options: (1) download it or (2) buy a second hand copy off ebay. In either case the developer will not get a penny from me and the only beneficiary would be whoever sells me the second hand copy. I don't really see how one option is worst than the other. By your reasoning I could of course take the third option which is simply refrain from playing it because I'm not 'entitled' to play it. But sorry, that is a ridiculous argument.
@electrolite77 I hear you. I can't really expand on the very valid points put forward by yourself and others. The level of intransigence really frustrates me though. Like you I'm old enough to realise that not everything is so black and white in society.
@Kalmaro please take a step down from the moral high ground that you inhabit and listen to the very reasonable arguments that have been put to you by @Onion and others. This issue is far more nuanced that you are making it out to be. I absolutely abhor the piracy of currently available games but that is not what we are talking about here. We are talking about downloading roms of sometimes decade old games that are no longer to available to purchase anywhere. My personal rule is simple. If it is available to purchase on a download service (such as Virtual Console/ Xbox Live) then I will buy it. If it is not available to purchase through any means then I see no issue with downloading it.
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Re: Flash Carts Could Be Slowly Killing Your Retro Consoles
@Kalmaro Of course it's related. The argument that I'm making is that if the game is not commercially available to buy anymore then I don't see the problem with people choosing to download it. Nobody is loosing any money in that instance. Let's take another example. I recently wanted to play Metroid Zero Mission again so purchased it on the Wii U Virtual Console as opposed to downloading it. I was happy to do it because in my view that is the right thing to do. If the game is commercially available then I will always buy it. In the case of Iridion 2 the game is not commercially available to buy anywhere. You think I should buy it second hand off ebay (which I may well do) but ultimately whichever option I choose the developer/ publisher will not see a penny. So how is buying it second hand a preferable option to downloading it?
As for the age thing, it could be regarded as patronising and that was not my intention. I just don't think it's for you to lecture people on what's right and what's wrong. You don't have a monopoly on morality and shouldn't pretend otherwise.
Re: Flash Carts Could Be Slowly Killing Your Retro Consoles
@Kalmaro you keep parroting words like 'entitlement' but are completely missing the point. Let's take an example, I have fond memories of playing Iridion II on the GBA and would like to play it again. It's not been released on Wii U Virtual Console or any other platform as far as I'm aware. I therefore have two options: (1) download it or (2) buy a second hand copy off ebay. In either case the developer will not get a penny from me and the only beneficiary would be whoever sells me the second hand copy. I don't really see how one option is worst than the other. By your reasoning I could of course take the third option which is simply refrain from playing it because I'm not 'entitled' to play it. But sorry, that is a ridiculous argument.
@electrolite77 I hear you. I can't really expand on the very valid points put forward by yourself and others. The level of intransigence really frustrates me though. Like you I'm old enough to realise that not everything is so black and white in society.
Re: Flash Carts Could Be Slowly Killing Your Retro Consoles
@Kalmaro please take a step down from the moral high ground that you inhabit and listen to the very reasonable arguments that have been put to you by @Onion and others. This issue is far more nuanced that you are making it out to be. I absolutely abhor the piracy of currently available games but that is not what we are talking about here. We are talking about downloading roms of sometimes decade old games that are no longer to available to purchase anywhere. My personal rule is simple. If it is available to purchase on a download service (such as Virtual Console/ Xbox Live) then I will buy it. If it is not available to purchase through any means then I see no issue with downloading it.