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@Leej07 It is wrong, there's no rule saying you have to have said game.

@mr_me450 if you can show me the ruling that says you can back up Nintendo games, I'll drop the matter.

@Priceless_Spork I'll do my best to follow them and all I can ask is that others do the same.

@duffmmann They have put making rooms in a positive light more than once, which I believe is wrong as developers like Nintendo do not approve of such actions... And this is a site dedicated to Nintendo.

@Baker1000 You're welcome squirt. Now go to bed, it's late.

@Dr_Corndog No, they really aren't. Nintendo specifically makes it clear that you do not own the game you purchase, just the right to play it. That means you don't have the authority to make a copy of it. Renting a game from a store is different.

@roadrunner343 I agree, so even if you did find something I'd probably just check later xD

@RedMageLanakyn Certainly seems that way

@roadrunner343 If you can show me a ruling that says we are legally allowed to back up the games we purchase, specifically Nintendo, I will drop my argument.

@Onion Look, don't get me wrong. I have very strong views on rules and how they are supposed to be followed. I also have strong views on valuing the property of others, digital or not.

However, don't think this means I don't sympathize with yoir situation and the situation of others. Emulation opened me to a lot of games roo when I was younger. However, I just can't go against what I believe in now, I've come to a point in my life where I can see people bending and breaking rules all the time for their own personal reasons and I can't accept that. If I support it in one spot then I'd be a hypocrite, so I have to take a hard stance in all situations.

The best and easiest solution to all of this, regarding Nintendo, is for them to just open up their entire Virtual Console system. Sadly, they have been dragging their feet on this and because of that, this stuff happens.

@Onion You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that you have one. Opinions, however, can not change fact. If we don't own the games we purchase but just the right to play them, then we have no authority to make a copy of them. If stating the truth makes me a white knight then so be it, I've been called worse. I've already answered your point so I'm not sure what you are unsatisfied about. Rooms can preserve games, sure, but none of us have the authority to do that. That is up to the people who actually own the game.

@AlwaysGreener That is pretty much my point, I actually made the same car analogy earlier. People are trying to say that this ROM dumping is suddenly okay if a game becomes rare. What that fail to show is a rule that says that all games must be preserved in the first place. There is none.

@ShadJV That is making an argument from entitlement. No one says you have to have said game, and we are not talking about renting or borrowing a game. This is about making your own copy of a game.

@Damo Yeah I know you are physically capable of dumping your own ROM. That is not my point. My issue is that there is no legal way to do so.

@subpopz No, I don't like that some games get lost forever, but then, this isn't about what I like. This is about what is right or wrong when it comes to games. My personal feelings on the matter do not suddenly give me the power to do what I want, that is not how these things work. Why bother having rules if they only work when we like them?

@GravyThief Even if a game is no longer available to be purchased normally that still does not give you the authority to do as you please. Rules are not made to only be followed so long as they are convienant.

@Onion unless the the people who own said game say they don't care about people making backups then there is still no way to make one without breaking the rules. You don't own the game, just the right to play it.

@Switch81tch It doesn't matter what I feel if a game is hard to obtain or no longer available. The simple matter is that it is not mine so I'd have no right to do what I please.

@Dr_Corndog Renting and making your own copy of a game are different things though.

@Onion But you run into a problem by using the preservation excuse. By who's authority are people preserving said games? It's like stealing someone's car in order to donate it to a museum.

"We've made no secret of our affection for such carts in the past, despite the rather shady moral (not to mention legal) nature of ROM distribution"

Yeah, that's just sad. You should not be promoting rooms at all. Emulators are not technically illegal but there is no legal way I know of to own a ROM of a Nintendo game and they will tell you that as well.