knight0fdragon

Let's be real here, the issue is not that publicly available code was used, the issue is that one person took code from somebody else that pretty much stated to not use it in the given state it was in, made zero improvements to it, and then put it out there claiming they did zero improvements to it. Now we have a guy incapable of doing any changes putting out what is essentially a piece of garbage that the original creators are embarrassed about existing. Had this just been a simple "hey I got the project working, who wants to help me" call, with some videos released, the narrative would have been fine. It would have been even better if ead gave them a heads up prior to it being released to avoid all of the drama. Hell, he could have even been able to ask them how they solved certain problems as he works on his derivative. Once a distinctive derivative existed showing that ead actually put work in by himself, then it would have been appropriate to release it. It is just common etiquette among developers and translators. Either add something of your own that makes it your own (which is a reason why forks exist) or extend a courteous message letting the creator know you plan on distributing a build and try to get a blessing so that drama is minimal. Taking somebody's work and just distributing it is a dick move.

It is not just what they are doing. It is the next person that does something similar, and the person after that, and the person after that.

You can get Japanese Saturns for $20 still, if you are paying $200 you are not looking in the right places.

That margin you are thinking of, is a few dollars at most.

@SlangWon no they are not and you have zero evidence to even support this claim. JFC the lengths people go to spread delusion.

@SlangWon didn’t say supply goes up but regardless manufacturing is not the only way supply goes up. Manufacturing is how the overall supply increases, but what is on the market always fluctuates by who is buying and who is selling.

What makes you think they are raising systems from the dead? These folks are taking working Saturns with working drives and turning them into these “new” consoles. It is killing the overall supply, not the market supply.

@SlangWon This hurts people who want to buy Saturns in the future and have to pay jacked up prices instead of affordable prices because supplies of the system are high.

@duffmmann they aren't making Saturns useful again, they are making Saturns less useful. This isn't done by some ethical group looking to give new life to broken Saturns.

@segasteve big difference between a DIY who would most likely retain their original parts, and a reseller harvesting existing models and not having any idea on what is going on with the PSU, shell, or CD Drive. Let's be real in that it is not exactly plentiful. The costs of the consoles have essentially doubled from 10 years ago because of demand going back up for them, and folks like Nick and I are thinking about the Saturn again 10 years from now as more systems start dying and supply continues to dwindle even more.

@Ferrus91 Nope, that was just the development team having fun with their engine, and sharing it with everybody for free (Providing you purchased all 3 scenarios)

@KingMike They were Camelot when they made Shining Force 3.

Thanks for the reminder.