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https://youtu.be/mqT9gKsxGSg?si=iRJJClg-EWGs-xXV

wasnt this already a thing years ago?

either version looks embarassing stick to what the system is good at (greeny browns and fart noises)

@kitsunebi_the_real had a look it looks janky in some 2005 forum format

Outofprintarchive is doing a pretty fine job of securing british gaming magazines for anyone not aware - totally free to download and the scans are great

@McShifty1984 this argument always does my head in. If you can go out and buy a Sega 6 button pad then you can go out and buy a SNES fighting controller from Hori.

ive had a Pocket for years now and all i want is to play any version of Virtua Racing. but no dev has updated the megadrive cores for SVP and apparently 32x wont fit and neither does Mega Cd for some reason. But Atari Jaguar ‘fits’ what?!

also surely someone can fit the apparently simple ps1 on it!

If anything retro gaming has a Sega problem - the Saturn and Dreamcast sold barely anything compared to the Playstations and yet their fanboy continue to pump up the legacy of those systems in the retro space. This website is a key example. It MIGHT be that just nonone actually cares about Sony!

@RossoftheRobots its not available to buy anymore

@NinChocolate Its absolutely fair enough wanting to use original hardware. nothing beats the feel. interesting video from MVG yesterday about the state of retro games; at some point clone hardware will be needed for everyone as everything but Nintendo cart based systems are starting to breakdown and need serious maintenance. I’m hoping that one of the new fpga consoles will be able to do what i want (all systems under one roof) as I got out of game collecting a long time ago (it became a horrific FOMO collectathon of crap for me). There are new systems from Heber and Taki Udon which should be released in 2025 under the mister platform and hopefully provide the end game solution for pre-2000 consoles

@NinChocolate A lot of consumer TVs have more inputs that just composite. In Europe most have RGB Scart for example

@NinChocolate If you check out the Heber shop you will note that they have a composite/s-video module which clicks in and the suggestion is that all these modules will be compatible https://shop.heber.co.uk/super-video-custard-cartridge-for-multisystem-with-enclosure/

Its probably reasonable for any mister system to default to RGB but composite is there if you're some fanatic for it.

@NinChocolate you should possibly read up a bit more. you can do direct video into a crt using a relatively small DAC or get an IO board add on for true vga output which carries an rgb signal. vga to scart cables are not expensive. The quality of the signal is arguably higher than native consoles (snes and megadrive consoles both have video quality issues).

@Toohats No i said the F1 car is faster than a Bugatti Veyron. Similarly the ps1 produces better graphics.

@Toohats i never owned either. Sega got it so so wrong in so many ways. Where were the popular IPs like Street of Rage and Castlevania . Why focus on arcade games. Wheres Sonic, and Disney and Ea Sports. Wheres anything resembling a roster of cinematic games. Why is it £400 ffs.

if the Saturn was more powerful how come the very capable Japanese devs of the era couldn’t get much out of it compared to playstation? to layman it doesnt make sense this whole ‘it was complicated boo hoo’

@Toohats its like saying a Ford Mustang is more powerful than an F1 car. It is in raw engine power but its irrelevant when the wheels are spinning snd the machines isnt going anywhere

@Toohats Not a single Saturn game then or home brewed game anywhere near late era ps1 games.

Well we all have eyes so can tell that this claim is clearly bollocks.

The playstation is the best console of all time. Even 5 years after release it was seeing off the newly released competition and delivering visuals the n64 and long defunct Saturn couldn’t - arguably the best ps1 games look better than n64 does. The price, the marketing, moving into new genres with cinematic adventure games cool kids and young adults actually wanted to play. Here in the UK it was popular like no computer or console system had been before.

Makes me laugh this comparison. this site is such a sega fanboy, of course the developer can fit an extra level in , there is no limit to rom size in this day and age.

Final Fight 3 on the snes showed what could be done with time and experience on that system - 3 player, multiple sprites. updated hacks have also eliminated slowdown.

i’d be curious why people want to play retro games on a massive OLED or LED tv. they look crap regardless of your scaler (and this thing’s crt filters will be nowhere near what retrotink put out)

if you love n64 just take your original console and plug it into any crt or spend the money on an rgb mod and a decent 20 inch PVM or if you cant afford that a consumer trinitron. the whole experience will be miles better that anything on a flat panel

oh jesus what is the point of any of this. anyone playing megadrive games in 2024 (us) also has a snes and a flash cart or an fpga or pi doing everything. just play it on the snes

someone needs to add a online store to this product and get Sega involved selling 90s gun games. wont happen but can aspire….

Im going to say the ones shown in the picture look awesome and this article has probably done more to worsen the problem by advertising - i had no idea these were available

@Chocoburger taken delivery and they are crammed with text, gonna take a while to read

@Chocoburger by all accounts these are based on interviews direct with anintrndo staff at the time and people connected. As i understand this book is the source of the story about how Nintendo reneged on a deal for the Game Boy screens with Citizen (favouring Sharp). To save face Nintendo got their devs to mock up fake color gameboy plans saying to Citizen they would instead be called on to supply colour lcd screens for this fictitous product. Citizen later took those concepts to Sega and they ended up helping with Game Gear. In summary Nintendo designed the game gear. a bit.

ive been messaging Omake Books for best part of 3 years and getting promises back about these translations so delighted to find out a couple of weeks ago these were coming - got
mine being delivered today !

every time - sega fanboy devs when will they stop?

34 years to replicate a snes launch title.

the console wars is OVER

I wish more people knew this game - it would shut up a lot of sega fanboys frothing about blast processing

@sdelfin Colour is your main problem porting from snes onto megadrive. It gives me a cold shudder to think of Yoshis Island being imprisoned on a brown, greeny Sega landscape with fart noises for music. oh the humanity

its a 1991 snes game - try porting Dracula X or something like Yoshis Island and watch the sega fanboys cry

@Poodlestargenerica A lot cheaper than the total for an Analogue console plus the DAC and their absurd shipping prices, and it works out the box one assumes.

It doesnt look they recap so what they just put a new case on it? ***** useless and any idiot could do it themselves

I hope the Analogizer gets more promotion on this website and others - direct output to CRTs for $50. I have one it works great but it needs more core support for stuff like the arcade cores.

https://analogizer-fpga.com/en

Couple of things - Voultar is a prick on twitter , getting on his high horse at everyone and MARS is ***** vaporware that can only be logically funded by a kickstarter. Mister works because its manufactured (and apparently subsidised) by a massive electronics company. The software is developed by the community.

A community however cannot manufacture their own product as one entity together unless theres a group of people investing capital and recouping the profits. It also cannot be run at a loss as none of them will logically fund that.

So, its *****.

Great ‘bookazines’ these although Mean Machines launched mid way through the run. Note that they would also release Complete Guides to Sega and Megadrive (both are very similar in content). I have all 6 in great nic luckily

We need more choice in the clone market - surely by now we should have gotten a sub-£100 SNES and Megadrive using lower power fpga chips akin to what funnyplaying have just brought out for game boy with their fpgbc. It cant just be Analogue’s super expensive and unavailable premium products and the now decade old AVS in the market

i’d love to know what the point of dual analogue sticks are on Saturn games.

Sega fan boys always bring up early snes slowdown but in raw power Snes games pull the pants down on Megadrive when looking at stuff like Hagane, Cybernator, Rendering Ranger, Super Metroid, DKC games and thats even before we talk the add on games.

The DSP chip used on launch games makes the SNES have a higher clock speed than the 68000 straight away. Racing games on megadrive are a joke compared to Nintendo’s machine as are the platformers. Any other distinct difference between the machines in favour of Sega is when you compare a direct port where the time or budget the developers had to covert to Nintendo is the causing factor.

The fact that bedroom coders who continue to attempt to covert Nintendo games to Sega like Ive seen Starfox, F Zero and now Final Fight, R Type etc is classic Sega short man syndrome. They cant let it go. SNES fans dont care - they have nothing to prove.

This could be the end game solution we’ve been looking for - a customer friendly option which mister isn't really. I hope they can launch a product with enough supply and capital behind them; i suspect a kickstarter is incoming

@TeamBigRig seems unlikely based on the price of sinden. Makes me think this is wii style remote tracking which would not be responsive. Bring on the reviews.

Agree with the other poster - all sequels should e included

@Razieluigi From what I recall when this was first showcased, developer mode is still an option which costs something like a one off fee of $19 to access? and you can switch between retail and developer modes as and when.

Its just they’ve now stopped the emulators being accessed under retail mode.

sorry to be negative but thats not how business investing works. either you loan in capital and get some interest back or you get equity.

they should register as an SEIS company and issue shares to prospective investors, gives tax relief up front and a slice of the company tax free if its successful enough to be sold

Gamecube? who are these hipsters

Game are selling these in their shops

No Streets of Rage 2? It would win a beat em poll

whats with the megadrive homebrew community ?

seems like they have a massive chip on their shoulder and so spend time and effort to try and ‘one-up’ the SNES and extract every last ounce of power from a 35 year old piece of tech.

From recent memory we’ve had Mario world on the megadrive, F-Zero, Final fight and now Starfox plus they’re upgrading games like Streetfighter and Mortal Kombat to try and make them graphically on par with the snes versions as if they can then run around saying ‘we’ve won the console wars!’

Get over it lads - if you want to play any of these games just pick up a snes or better still the arcade versions as they’re still superior and your machine makes fart noises.

@Alexface plus another 20% on the total of item+shipping in VAT …plus an admin charge from the carrier!

@N64-ROX wakey wakey PS1 is nearly there

@carlos82 hey carlos. the main advantage of mister is being able to get analogue output and zero lag. people moan about how hard 8 and 16-bit games were but i think this is a modern phenomenon that has arisen from emulation and the inherent lag in the hardware emulating and the lcd being played on.

play these games on original hardware with a crt and its soooo kuch easier to react and plau the games, thats how 8 year olds managed to do it.

SF2 on snes mini i just cannot get past Sagat for example, but on my snes and the monitor i use its doable. same with lap times on super marionkart

it really does make a massive difference over other options like a snes classic or a PC or xbox emulation