@mjparker77 MK 3 on the Sega master system was a Brazil Techtoy exclusive and it shows - rushed, buggy and not fun to play IMHO.
MK1 and MK2 were both released in the UK and Europe. If you have original hardware the carts won't set you back too much, and are the best 1:1 fighters on the system by a country mile.
The Middle East was a big market for the Neo Geo, which is why Middle Eastern backdrops often feature in their KOF series. Petrodollars = a wealthy elite who could afford this system back in the day.
As for this game, it plays pretty nicely with a nice team battle effect.
The master system versions were a technical marvel, at least for MK 1 and 2. All special moves included and most standard ones also, despite operating on a two button pad. Sure, it's clearly never going to trouble the Megadrive or SNES conversions, but in terms of pushing base hardware this is up there with the best of them.
I bought this cart specifically to enjoy the super game boy extras. You get some nice additional surround artwork in a typical Nintendo style.
I never had the SGB back in the day as it was similarly priced to the regular Gameboy, something I could not understand at the time. No it goes for peanuts and is a nice curio.
@Exerion76 Me too. From memory it was a single track? The graphics, sound and design melded perfectly into one to make the PlayStation the cool kid on the block
That's the sound of my jaw hitting the floor.... incredible. My 11 year old Commodore 64 owning self would have lost his little mind over this in an awesome alternative universe
Great article and thank you for sharing your memories.
As others have expressed, I would love to see a single G&W unit with multiple games on it. I purchased the Mario and Zelda versions which are a great modern take on the formula, but would love to Nintendo explore this theme more fully, especially given the price of existing hardware and their age.
It was a great time to be a gamer - seemingly every month a new 32 but system was being announced (or cancelled!). When the PlayStation came out it blew my mind - nobody would have predicted how close Ridge Racer was to its arcade brother. I eventually sold mine to buy a Sega Saturn which in turn I sold to fund the purchase of my N64.
I am grateful later in life to have been able to add those disposed of consoles back into my collection other, oddly, than the PlayStation (although I do have the PlayStation mini to scratch that itch).
In terms of making gaming cool, absolutely. Just look and listen to Wipeout. From a presentational and impact point it was massive.
More articles and interviews like this please. So interesting to read her perspective on life at Nintendo over such an influential, formative period. Comes across really well.
I had Stunt Car Racer on my C64 and even that version was decent (for the time). Those tracks more resembled roller coasters than race tracks. A lot of fun š
A friend of mine had an ST, while I was still on my humble Commodore 64. Remember playing hero quest and Cadaver. But he also had a NES so spent more time with Mario and Kung Fu master.
This was cool! I think I remember it being covered on TV computing show Bad Influence. Never saw one in the wild; given what you were getting the price was somewhat high, especially as at this point the Gameboy hardware price was very reasonable, as were Gameboy carts
All that said, this definitely appeals to me now, so thank you friend r raising the profile through this nicely written article. You've captured the spirit of the times well.
I know it is popular to place the increased difficulty in Western releases on the rental market, but bear in mind large sections of the (at least UK) games magazine would regularly Mark games down for being too easy (remember that longevity score anyone)? That would have also played into the notion that Western gamers 'liked' a more difficult challenge.
The only console I have purchased on grey import. Day 1 I had Sonic and Power Stone. A month later I added sega rally 2 to my collection.
My best memory is playing house of the dead 2, where I was fortunate enough to own 2 lightguns. I was living at home at the time with a full time job so as a result my disposal income was high. In the end I sold it, but have great memories of the system.
Am really looking forward to picking up Capcom Fighting Collection 2 to recess Capcom vs Snk (1 and 2) as well as Powerstone 1&2.
Love this! So interesting that seemingly minor tweaks can so enhance a game.
Reading reviews of the time, alit would complain about games in general being to easy and therefore not representing value for money. I think reviewers sometimes forgot what was easy for them was challenging for the average gamer.
Pleased to see this. The NSO does have its flaws, but this is a terrific way that make these selected title available to a wider audience of gamers to enjoy.
Yes, physical copies and original hardware are great, but I've run out of physical space to invest in more retro hardware. This is a great way for me to enjoy and explore a back catalogue that I don't yet know that well, and without NSO would be unlikely to get to explore.
@-wc- there was a GameCube version which I brought from r my son last Christmas after we went to a retro arcade and he played the stand up cabinet with the big truck steering wheel.
Nope never been, but I was living in Osaka when in Japan. I did attend a flea market, and can't recall there being a whole lot of retro tech, more general bric a brac and clothes.
There was a headmaster transformer I found after a lot of looking and I snapped that bad boy up
What a great career. Personally I didn't read much of NMS, and that was largely due to the style versus Super Play which was my go to (and is still a recommended read now).
That said, NMS / Mean Machines / CVG sold a huge amount of magazines and had a big influence (in the UK at least) so fair play to him - he's definitely done more than me!
Many happy memories of shopping here, but that was decades ago. So I am not surprised to see this speculation around the companies future. Vote with your wallet.
For the casual player the NSO Switch offering is good enough.
Personally I prefer playing on original hardware, I think that is mainly down to having many of the platforms when I was younger (not all at the same time I hasten to add). But from a performance perspective can I tell the difference? Not really.
Slightly off topic but a good system to collect for at the moment is the 3DS are prices are low. Plus I think a readily accessible (for the average person) 3D emulation is difficult to achieve, and likely to stay that way for some time to come.
Merry Christmas to you too! Looking forward to another 12 months year of Retro goodness in 2025! Reading your site every day helps make life fun, so keep up the excellent work - it and all your hard work is much appreciated š
I got mine a few months ago. It's a great product and shows that Nintendo love a bit of innovation. The main problem I recall at the time it was originally released was that price wise it was in line with the actual Gameboy (and I couldn't afford both!).
In hindsight given the additional features and lower cost of manufacturing game boy cartridges, this should have been pushed more as a way to deliver SNES games at a budget price (super space invaders is a good example of this where it contained the full SNES ROM on the GB cartridge).
@KitsuneNight you make a valid point. I guess in my mind it was slightly different in that the master system 2 was a relaunch of an existing product, whereas this was marketed as something new.
But yes, there definitely was a market for this given the master system 2 hardware sales. Probably helped by having the excellent Alex Kidd game built in š„°
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Re: Mortal Kombat Kollection Devs Still Won't Say If This SNES "Holy Grail" Could Be Included
@mjparker77 MK 3 on the Sega master system was a Brazil Techtoy exclusive and it shows - rushed, buggy and not fun to play IMHO.
MK1 and MK2 were both released in the UK and Europe. If you have original hardware the carts won't set you back too much, and are the best 1:1 fighters on the system by a country mile.
Re: The Second 'Neo Geo Premium Selection' Title Just Dropped
The Middle East was a big market for the Neo Geo, which is why Middle Eastern backdrops often feature in their KOF series. Petrodollars = a wealthy elite who could afford this system back in the day.
As for this game, it plays pretty nicely with a nice team battle effect.
Re: Mortal Kombat Kollection Devs Still Won't Say If This SNES "Holy Grail" Is Included
The master system versions were a technical marvel, at least for MK 1 and 2. All special moves included and most standard ones also, despite operating on a two button pad. Sure, it's clearly never going to trouble the Megadrive or SNES conversions, but in terms of pushing base hardware this is up there with the best of them.
Re: The Sega Master System Is Getting A Free Sci-Fi-Themed Ice Climber-Like Platformer Later This Month
Love me a bit of Master System action!
Re: Miyamoto's "Forgotten" Game Boy Masterpiece Mole Mania Gets The Unofficial 'DX' Treatment
I bought this cart specifically to enjoy the super game boy extras. You get some nice additional surround artwork in a typical Nintendo style.
I never had the SGB back in the day as it was similarly priced to the regular Gameboy, something I could not understand at the time. No it goes for peanuts and is a nice curio.
Re: Anniversary: Mean Machines, The UK's Greatest Console Magazine, Turns 35 Today
@bring_on_branstons Your Dad sounds like he had fine taste š
Re: Anniversary: Mean Machines, The UK's Greatest Console Magazine, Turns 35 Today
I'm a Super Play guy, and they still stand up to a re-read and browse to this day.
Re: Capcom Is Keen To Make More Of Its Fighting Games Available On Modern Systems
How about the home console version of Street Fighter the movie. Superior the arcade version, and would be an enjoyable distraction š
Re: Anniversary: Ready To Feel Really Old? WipEout Turns 30 Today
@Exerion76 Me too. From memory it was a single track? The graphics, sound and design melded perfectly into one to make the PlayStation the cool kid on the block
Re: This Modder Has Revived Imagine's Infamous 'Megagame' Add-On Concept, And The Results Are Jaw-Dropping
Boom š¤Æ
That's the sound of my jaw hitting the floor.... incredible. My 11 year old Commodore 64 owning self would have lost his little mind over this in an awesome alternative universe
Re: Game Changer: Donkey Kong II Game & Watch - My First Ever Taste Of Video Games
@hisownsidekick dare to dream! Would be awesome and also a money spinner š
Re: Bitmap Books Next Release Aims To Be The "Definitive Book Of SNES RPGs"
The Bitmap books are quality, so amazing looking forward to reading this.
Re: Forget Nintendo Switch, You Probably Own A Great Way To Play Virtual Boy Games Already
Am looking forward to receiving my VB stand and slotting in my Switch OLED to make those red and blacks pop.
Clearly a niche product, but am delighted Nintendo have taken the time and effort.
Re: Game Changer: Donkey Kong II Game & Watch - My First Ever Taste Of Video Games
Great article and thank you for sharing your memories.
As others have expressed, I would love to see a single G&W unit with multiple games on it. I purchased the Mario and Zelda versions which are a great modern take on the formula, but would love to Nintendo explore this theme more fully, especially given the price of existing hardware and their age.
Re: "We Were Blown Away" - Belfast's First Retro Arcade Opens Its Doors
Always good to see a Retro focused business doing well. Long may it continue
Re: PlayStation Launched 30 Years Ago In North America, And This Book Aims To Celebrate Its Remarkable Impact
It was a great time to be a gamer - seemingly every month a new 32 but system was being announced (or cancelled!). When the PlayStation came out it blew my mind - nobody would have predicted how close Ridge Racer was to its arcade brother. I eventually sold mine to buy a Sega Saturn which in turn I sold to fund the purchase of my N64.
I am grateful later in life to have been able to add those disposed of consoles back into my collection other, oddly, than the PlayStation (although I do have the PlayStation mini to scratch that itch).
In terms of making gaming cool, absolutely. Just look and listen to Wipeout. From a presentational and impact point it was massive.
Re: Interview: "We Did Try To Keep 'Forest' In The Name" - How Mario 64's Princess Peach Helped Bring Animal Crossing To The West
More articles and interviews like this please. So interesting to read her perspective on life at Nintendo over such an influential, formative period. Comes across really well.
Re: The Making Of: Geoff Crammond's Formula One Grand Prix Series
I had Stunt Car Racer on my C64 and even that version was decent (for the time). Those tracks more resembled roller coasters than race tracks. A lot of fun š
Re: "Rarest" Nintendo Famicom Game Found In US Retro Store For $12
Hopefully someone's actually gets to play and enjoy this. I know that Go is huge in Japan so I guess that is what is driving the price here.
Re: Feature: "Like A Completely New Game" - The Untold Story Behind Prince Of Persia's Impressive SNES Port
I had this on my master system, and like the SNES version (but to a lesser extent) they had spruced up the graphics to make more varied environments.
Of course, when I transitioned to my SNES and found out about this version I started saving my paper round money to buy it.
A big shout out to the awesome music in this version. One of my favourite SNES OST.
Re: Core Design's Rick Dangerous Adventures Onto Mega Drive / Genesis Port In A New Fanmade Port
Am looking forward to giving this a try. Had it in the 90s on my C64. Was a tough but fun game with excellent (for the time) music.
Re: Capcom Fighting Collection 2's Next Update Has A Cool Surprise For PSP & GBA Fans
The best just got better! Looking forward to this content being available. Thanks Capcom!
Re: ChatGPT Translated An Article About Space Harrier, Then Suggested "Tailoring" It For Retro Gamer
Thanks for raising awareness of this important issue - important we understand all sides š¢ f the debate in this complex area
Re: Anniversary: The Atari ST, Everyone's Second Favourite 16-bit Home Computer, Turns 40
A friend of mine had an ST, while I was still on my humble Commodore 64. Remember playing hero quest and Cadaver. But he also had a NES so spent more time with Mario and Kung Fu master.
Re: Barcode Battler, The Early '90s Classic That's So Crap, It's Almost Cool
This was cool! I think I remember it being covered on TV computing show Bad Influence. Never saw one in the wild; given what you were getting the price was somewhat high, especially as at this point the Gameboy hardware price was very reasonable, as were Gameboy carts
All that said, this definitely appeals to me now, so thank you friend r raising the profile through this nicely written article. You've captured the spirit of the times well.
Re: Over 30 Years Later, Someone Has Fixed This "Unfair" Tiny Toon Game For The Nintendo Game Boy
I know it is popular to place the increased difficulty in Western releases on the rental market, but bear in mind large sections of the (at least UK) games magazine would regularly Mark games down for being too easy (remember that longevity score anyone)? That would have also played into the notion that Western gamers 'liked' a more difficult challenge.
Re: Anniversary: 25 Years Ago, Sega Launched Dreamcast In Europe With One Of The Most Esoteric Campaigns Ever
The only console I have purchased on grey import. Day 1 I had Sonic and Power Stone. A month later I added sega rally 2 to my collection.
My best memory is playing house of the dead 2, where I was fortunate enough to own 2 lightguns. I was living at home at the time with a full time job so as a result my disposal income was high. In the end I sold it, but have great memories of the system.
Am really looking forward to picking up Capcom Fighting Collection 2 to recess Capcom vs Snk (1 and 2) as well as Powerstone 1&2.
Re: New Inspector Gadget SNES ROM Hack Tweaks Hudson Soft's Cartoon Platformer
Love this! So interesting that seemingly minor tweaks can so enhance a game.
Reading reviews of the time, alit would complain about games in general being to easy and therefore not representing value for money. I think reviewers sometimes forgot what was easy for them was challenging for the average gamer.
Re: Netflix Users Can Now Grab Street Fighter IV Champion Edition As Part Of Their Subscription
Part of me is curious to try the controls to see how bad they are.
From r now I'll stick with my GB street fighter 2 port....at least that allows me to use a d-pad š
Re: 34 Years Ago, Nintendo Begged Fans Not To "Risk" Importing SNES Consoles From Japan
I remember my brother being in the US when SF2 turbo was released. He brought me back a copy so was able to play that one early.
Tended to also be a good market in 2nd hand import games - I picked up Axelay and Shadowrun back in the 90s that way.
Re: Nintendo Just Broke The Hearts Of GameCube Scalpers Everywhere With Switch 2
Pleased to see this. The NSO does have its flaws, but this is a terrific way that make these selected title available to a wider audience of gamers to enjoy.
Yes, physical copies and original hardware are great, but I've run out of physical space to invest in more retro hardware. This is a great way for me to enjoy and explore a back catalogue that I don't yet know that well, and without NSO would be unlikely to get to explore.
Re: One Of The Worst Games Of All Time Is Coming To Steam
@-wc- there was a GameCube version which I brought from r my son last Christmas after we went to a retro arcade and he played the stand up cabinet with the big truck steering wheel.
Keep on trucking!
Re: Video: The SuperSega Scandal Is Even Crazier Than You Imagined, And Here's The Proof
If this is as good as the Amici documentary he made then weoo worth watching
Re: Even Japan's Flea Markets Are Better Than Ours
Nope never been, but I was living in Osaka when in Japan. I did attend a flea market, and can't recall there being a whole lot of retro tech, more general bric a brac and clothes.
There was a headmaster transformer I found after a lot of looking and I snapped that bad boy up
Re: "We Owe You An Apology" - Hyperkin Admits It Has "Overpromised And Under-Delivered"
Good on them for fronting this up
Re: "I Don't Think Iād Ever Have Been Able To Guess My Life Path" - Julian Rignall On Five Decades In Gaming
What a great career. Personally I didn't read much of NMS, and that was largely due to the style versus Super Play which was my go to (and is still a recommended read now).
That said, NMS / Mean Machines / CVG sold a huge amount of magazines and had a big influence (in the UK at least) so fair play to him - he's definitely done more than me!
Re: Review: Anbernic RG34XX - A GBA Clone That's So Good Nintendo's Name Should Be On It
Can this play original GBA carts?
Re: With The 233-Year-Old WH Smith's Future In Doubt, We Could Be Losing A Gaming Print Media Institution
Many happy memories of shopping here, but that was decades ago. So I am not surprised to see this speculation around the companies future. Vote with your wallet.
Re: This New Final Fight 2 Strength Hack Rebalances The SNES Beat 'Em Up
Give me a hack for a Haggard ponytail, then I'll be interested.
Re: Here's How Dreamcast's "Phenomenal" GTA 3 Port Compares To The PS2 Original
This is really impressive feat so fair play to these guys and girls for putting in the dedication
Re: Why Is N64 So Hard To Emulate In 2025? Modern Vintage Gamer Investigates
For the casual player the NSO Switch offering is good enough.
Personally I prefer playing on original hardware, I think that is mainly down to having many of the platforms when I was younger (not all at the same time I hasten to add). But from a performance perspective can I tell the difference? Not really.
Slightly off topic but a good system to collect for at the moment is the 3DS are prices are low. Plus I think a readily accessible (for the average person) 3D emulation is difficult to achieve, and likely to stay that way for some time to come.
Re: Sega's Shinobi Has Been Unofficially Ported To Neo Geo, And You Can Grab It Now
I love this game, so glad to see it still getting some love.
Re: Editorial: Merry Christmas, You Filthy Animals
Merry Christmas to you too! Looking forward to another 12 months year of Retro goodness in 2025! Reading your site every day helps make life fun, so keep up the excellent work - it and all your hard work is much appreciated š
Re: Andy Dyer Of Commodore Format, Total! And Mega Fame Has Passed Away
RiP. Many fond memories š f reading my friends Total mag when he had a NeS and I had a master system.
Re: Anniversary: The Super Game Boy Is 30 Years Old
I got mine a few months ago. It's a great product and shows that Nintendo love a bit of innovation. The main problem I recall at the time it was originally released was that price wise it was in line with the actual Gameboy (and I couldn't afford both!).
In hindsight given the additional features and lower cost of manufacturing game boy cartridges, this should have been pushed more as a way to deliver SNES games at a budget price (super space invaders is a good example of this where it contained the full SNES ROM on the GB cartridge).
Re: CIBSunday: Amstrad GX4000
@KitsuneNight you make a valid point. I guess in my mind it was slightly different in that the master system 2 was a relaunch of an existing product, whereas this was marketed as something new.
But yes, there definitely was a market for this given the master system 2 hardware sales. Probably helped by having the excellent Alex Kidd game built in š„°
Re: CIBSunday: Amstrad GX4000
I managed to dodge this, but I remember seeing lots of screenshots of Burnin Rubber in magazines at the time.
Releasing an 8 but system in 1990 was odd timing to say the least!
Re: This Incredibly Rare Hulk Xbox Could Fetch Up To $11,000
That logo is hideous, but can appreciate the rarity aspect to this. Maybe ugly would be a kinder description.
Good luck to whoever wins this.
Re: A Fanmade Port Of SNK vs. Capcom For The C64 / C128 Is Now Available
I would have loved this if had been available when I was young. Makes a mockery of the SF2 world warrior port.
Re: Sega Wants You To Know It Isn't Announcing Any New 'Mini' Hardware In 2024
I'd love a mini master system! And if you were selling it world wide (including Europe and Brazil) then I'm sure it would do well enough.
And I'm with you - I prefer that master system 2 casing š«¢