I have never been a fan of suggestions in a UI which sadly Microsoft and Sony have fallen in love with. I just hope Nintendo abstains for the Switch 2.
MS/Sony should have left it at the abstracted, simmering floating-bits dashboards of the Ps2 and Xbox era. Reminds me of waiting by a fireplace or a bubbling skillet pot or a fogged up rain battered window while I decide what game to play. Calming with no distractions, advertisments, suggestions or auto-playing videos clutter.
Already casted the aul wallet vote. I wish we could just beat just them over the head with what was the main idea behind consoles till they see some sense
We're getting into the 'Are we the same person as we were a decade ago due to cell division?' territory here. Sure since we are here, is all of our cemented poop in the sewer-nether more mentally potent than the individual?
@Green_Devil Agreed. Not American and now all of a sudden we have US based economic policy articles. I’d doubt anybody here is professional economist nor is looking to scratch the itch here so leave the politics aside please.
@ecco6t9 Absolutely. It’s the textbook drawback of using homogenised components and toolchains. The write once, run anywhere(& debug everywhere!) approach which I think Java popularised is in vogue now. We are left with unoptimised games on generic platforms.
I never had the console, but the Saturn is an example of creativity stemming from the “interesting” hardware design. I suppose most of the older consoles are like that in a way as this article suggests.
That unintentional creative parameter is lost these days. Can be both and bad. We now have bedroom indies making great things but also a whole ocean of ***** games to sift through.
@NicolausCamp Understandable. I’d probably do the same too if I was not nostalgic for it. Specific warping in Tenchu jumped into my head the second you mentioned it. The tint is strong strong here
@Poodlestargenerica I prefer not to upscale PS1 games. The textures are just too low res. I let the brain fill in the gaps on the native resolution instead which I would w**k-ily argue is part of the artists original intent. And, burying the lede here, I played the ps1 when it was out, so rose-tinted nostalgia there too of course.
Frame rate yes, agree with ya on that one, particularly in Gran Turismo 2’s case. This yoke-een will have a turbo boost mode if it’s truly a Mister knock off which helps tremendously.
If civilisation is still functioning in 100 years, people will look back at us like madmen carrying explosive chemical batteries around in our pockets all day.
Best case scenario for a punctured, well-made battery is a flame out. Food for thought
@avcrypt Fully agreed. I’m the same way when conjuring UIs in software. I just don’t grasp how to nicely break symmetry akin to what Sony did with their Ps2 design
This reminds me of that South Park episode where Pat Robertson is trying to raise money on the Christian Broadcast Channel for an interstellar cruiser.
We were playing iteratively derivative versions of scrolling 2d games over 80s/90s and wanted 3d games sans the arcade trappings. Not a big surprise Saturn failed.
Many companies protect game IPs from the past that they merely acquired nowadays. How many of the people who actually put the hours into them games still get paid. Is the original publisher even around any more? The whole law and culture around who owns what legacy/antiquated/obsolete piece of code is just objectively broken currently from an outsiders perspective. It’s also impossible to fix. Take any old abandoned game that has licensed music in it. How do you even legally untangle that so it can be publicly loaned via a library. This is going to be a tricky issue made next to impossible by lobbyists pissing in the water at each step of the process.
Hey just wanna say thanks for the site. Love the work in pulling random tidbits like this that I no longer have the time to go and find myself. Site has a well earned spot on my daily rotation.
@Serpenterror I agree with you there. Any time people try to make piracy or preservation (depending on the point of view) available to the layperson it is usually shot down. History has shown this to be true.
I see a grim future for these Chinese devices if they keep bundling SD cards full of games. Well at least in the US and EU markets. The latter has already busted an operation in Italy around this.
Taki Udon should probably observe carefully too a he tries to pitch a console-ised Mister. These attempts to lower barriers to entry generally end poorly. He may inadvertently paint a target on the back of the MisterFpga project.
My biggest concern of the modern internet is the centralisation of discussion, media sharing and consumption. It makes them easy targets for aggressive copyright claims. Before it was an impossible game of whack-a-mole for litigious companies.
It’s been going this way since the beginning of the smart phone app based internet unfortunately. A combination of less tech savvy smartphone users and now younger people brought up in a world with walled-garden app-based ecosystems has sadly created an inertia towards having big tech companies be the gatekeepers of online discussion, media creation and consumption.
Instagram(or insert other big corp product here) for photos, YouTube for video hosting, Reddit for forums & Discord for IRC and many more for other avenues. I even see people using telegram for Android custom rom discussions.
I generally ignore them ***** elitists and dramatists. They ruin every hobby/interest/community if you pay attention to ‘em.
The draw of Mister for meself is a tiny <15W box that is quite accurate at emulation, feels like a single-use device and is more or less instant-on. Just flick switch turn on controller, and bang, you’re in.
ie. The traditional console experience that Sony and Microsoft would do well to remember.
There are still some major pieces missing, especially around the initial setup which is not trivial, but I’ll give it some leeway there since it’s a community project couched in the dubious area of roms.
Why is this even an article? Put something more positive into the nether next time please. Ya know that amplifying this crap is damaging to the communities in question and therefore is damaging to the well you are dipping from.
In short:
No scraping twitter for sh1te talk. I can do that myself thanks.
Class to have but could ya imagine playing any PS2 disc streaming open world game on this yokeeen. You hit one bump in the road, the disc skips and the floor in GTA disappears.
@bippity_bop I’d say put away the tinfoil for this iteration. The chip on the monitor usually does the heavy lifting so it can be platform agnostic.
The only OS interface available to it is via video signal (HDMI DVI). Doubt they could send usage data from the monitor back to the OS and circumvent the sandboxing of the OS too without every Linux enthusiast calling their local politician.
Now if it comes with a WiFi chip for wireless mirroring then I will be borrowing your tinfoil thank you very much
Single user eye tracking? Not great, except for it being a good privacy guard. Also, how is eye fatigue with this? Could make a great migraine factory for those who wanna puke and hallucinate for a day or two
These cases are usually not targeted directly by someone. It’s usually bots crawling domains running known security exploits. I used to ask in the past why someone would target such a niche site. It really is eye opening when you host a site and check the apache logs. The underlying internet sometimes feels like a crack district with desperate crack-heads trying to beat your door down 24 hours a day.
Be it physical or digital, it’s still boundless consumption and materialism. At least you can measure it this way.
I’d rather my kids browse a tangible, curated catalogue of “physical” (in this respect) games then mindlessly consume another list and appreciate none of it.
@Porco Ahree on the save states. I’ve kept the SNES mini classic around because of that.
Another issue is the saving to sram only when the OSD is opened. Lost progress before with that one. I understand the reason why but it’s still bad UX.
I really don’t give 2 fiddlers about cycle-accuracy and as long as the input latency is acceptable I can get by.
Why me love me Mister ha:
it is small
uses feck all power & turns on immediately (can’t stress this one enough)
doesn’t require internet access unless you are addicted to running “update_all.sh” instead of actually playing games.
it is reliable (unlike the Pi I set up that corrupted my Sd card within a week)
easy to sync new controllers and works with nearly any you may have lying around (god bless Linux kernel there)
Basic UI with no fluff or other bollocks
SNES/NES/Psx mini classic are other great devices in that respect. Instant-on & no service/subscription related ***** is the way consoles should be. Sadly lost by these newer “games as a service” consoles.
MiSTer should not be just for enthusiasts IMO. Taki Udon may strike gold if he can get a decent priced all-in-one Mister console going for people who don’t have time to set one up.
Edit:
Weird. I can say bollocks but can’t say s.h.I.t.e above. Strange aul censor.
@MysticWangForce Don't know the story with this one but usually these console drives are linked to the console & encrypted with special signing keys. The PSX console may also expect a specific undocumented file-system on the drive too. None of this info would be public and need to be reverse-engineered
The name fits. It IS a Chinese knock-off of a DE10-Nano board after all. Albeit, a high quality knock-off at a great price. I don't think its aimed at general market, it's for those who already know what's being offered.
He has other SKU's for the general market from the looks of it. But, if those are branded as "Mr Pi" then he has himself to blame later
Have to agree with you. I gave up playing SNES & C64 games on MiSTer because of save states. I don't have the time to restart Super Castlevania or Creatures 1 every time. A hacked Snes mini does the job for those & I can play bit by bit over time and can even rewind SNES save states.
Still amazed that the GBA and PSX MiSTer cores have save states. Robert is a legend.
For impoverished, mid-adolescent nerds like myself who were unsullied by the internet of the time, the Emotion Engine was a magic box of power.
My ignorant self thought it could recreate the entirety of New York in Metal Gear Solid 2 down to the buildings, where every single one was was enter-able, where even the post cards could be destroyed and where the populace could all be fully animated.
That was my expectation for MGS2 after playing the demo. Basically Escape From New York done in the Emotion Engine. You can imagine my disappointment when I first arrived at Big Shell.
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Re: New Xbox 360 Recompilation Tool Will Give Lost Classics Another Chance To Shine
Viva piñata Trouble in Paradise oh yea
Re: 24 Percent Of Gen Z Brits Own A Classic Gaming System, While 74 Percent Say Retro Is "More Relaxing"
I have never been a fan of suggestions in a UI which sadly Microsoft and Sony have fallen in love with. I just hope Nintendo abstains for the Switch 2.
MS/Sony should have left it at the abstracted, simmering floating-bits dashboards of the Ps2 and Xbox era. Reminds me of waiting by a fireplace or a bubbling skillet pot or a fogged up rain battered window while I decide what game to play. Calming with no distractions, advertisments, suggestions or auto-playing videos clutter.
Already casted the aul wallet vote. I wish we could just beat just them over the head with what was the main idea behind consoles till they see some sense
Re: Creator Of New Open-Source Game Boy Disagrees That FPGA Is Superior To Software Emulation
We're getting into the 'Are we the same person as we were a decade ago due to cell division?' territory here. Sure since we are here, is all of our cemented poop in the sewer-nether more mentally potent than the individual?
Re: Your Next Retro Emulation Handheld Could Cost You 35% More Than Usual
@Green_Devil Agreed. Not American and now all of a sudden we have US based economic policy articles. I’d doubt anybody here is professional economist nor is looking to scratch the itch here so leave the politics aside please.
Re: Random: The Gloriously Unhinged SuperSega Saga Now Has Its Own Song
If you stay in the news cycle you won’t get arrested? I’m starting to believe that is true
Re: Here's Your Best Look Yet At Taki Udon's SuperStation One FPGA PS1, And You Can Order It Now
128mb of Sdram is soldered to the board (bga?). Is there an additional slot for another 128mb for Saturn and Jaguar cores?
Re: Interview: Taki Udon Explains How His FPGA PS1 Aims To "Remove Barriers" To FPGA Gaming
“ Personally, I think an alternative UI option should exist for those who want it. If people want us to do it, then we will.”
You should assume to be the one to code it, upstream it, maintain it and provide support for it too
Re: The Making Of: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2's Surprisingly Stellar GBA Port
@ecco6t9 Absolutely. It’s the textbook drawback of using homogenised components and toolchains. The write once, run anywhere(& debug everywhere!) approach which I think Java popularised is in vogue now. We are left with unoptimised games on generic platforms.
I never had the console, but the Saturn is an example of creativity stemming from the “interesting” hardware design. I suppose most of the older consoles are like that in a way as this article suggests.
That unintentional creative parameter is lost these days. Can be both and bad. We now have bedroom indies making great things but also a whole ocean of ***** games to sift through.
Re: Taki Udon's Groundbreaking FPGA PS1 Gets Detailed, Pricing Starts At $149
@NicolausCamp Understandable. I’d probably do the same too if I was not nostalgic for it. Specific warping in Tenchu jumped into my head the second you mentioned it. The tint is strong strong here
Re: Why Is N64 So Hard To Emulate In 2025? Modern Vintage Gamer Investigates
@ChaseIQ Death to all you pagans by hardware accurate(-ish) snu-snu
Re: Taki Udon's Groundbreaking FPGA PS1 Gets Detailed, Pricing Starts At $149
@Poodlestargenerica I prefer not to upscale PS1 games. The textures are just too low res. I let the brain fill in the gaps on the native resolution instead which I would w**k-ily argue is part of the artists original intent. And, burying the lede here, I played the ps1 when it was out, so rose-tinted nostalgia there too of course.
Frame rate yes, agree with ya on that one, particularly in Gran Turismo 2’s case. This yoke-een will have a turbo boost mode if it’s truly a Mister knock off which helps tremendously.
Re: Sega Has Been "Losing Confidence" But Its New Boss Wants To "Make It Really Shiny Again"
More pointless waffling by a spoof merchant
Re: Fan Port Of Castlevania III Teased For The Mega Drive / Genesis, But There's A Catch
People like this are just fantastic. It would motivate ya to start on your own ideas. Thanks for posting this one.
Re: Ordering Retro Gaming Hardware From Japan Just Got A Little Harder If You Live In One Of These Countries
If civilisation is still functioning in 100 years, people will look back at us like madmen carrying explosive chemical batteries around in our pockets all day.
Best case scenario for a punctured, well-made battery is a flame out. Food for thought
Re: Here's A Better Look At The Promising "All-In-One" MiSTer FPGA Console, Multisystem 2
@avcrypt Fully agreed. I’m the same way when conjuring UIs in software. I just don’t grasp how to nicely break symmetry akin to what Sony did with their Ps2 design
Re: To The Shock Of Absolutely Nobody, Sega Is Trying To Shut Down The SuperSega FPGA Project
This reminds me of that South Park episode where Pat Robertson is trying to raise money on the Christian Broadcast Channel for an interstellar cruiser.
Re: If Nothing Else, SuperSega's Latest "Review" Should Convince You To Keep Your Wallet Shut
@Daniel36 agreed. This is hilarious
Re: Anniversary: Sega Saturn, The Most Successful Console "Flop" Of All Time, Turns 30 Today
Sega just couldn’t read the room.
We were playing iteratively derivative versions of scrolling 2d games over 80s/90s and wanted 3d games sans the arcade trappings. Not a big surprise Saturn failed.
Re: SuperSega Explains Why It Produces Such "Crappy" Videos, Says It's Afraid Analogue Will Steal Its Ideas
The only thing Analogue would like to steal the the Dreamcast core that 100% exists.
Never heard such flowery sh1te. Pure chancers
Re: The US Copyright Office Doesn't Want To Give You Access To Video Game History
Many companies protect game IPs from the past that they merely acquired nowadays. How many of the people who actually put the hours into them games still get paid. Is the original publisher even around any more? The whole law and culture around who owns what legacy/antiquated/obsolete piece of code is just objectively broken currently from an outsiders perspective.
It’s also impossible to fix. Take any old abandoned game that has licensed music in it. How do you even legally untangle that so it can be publicly loaned via a library. This is going to be a tricky issue made next to impossible by lobbyists pissing in the water at each step of the process.
Re: Grand Theft Auto Dev Pays Tribute To "The Unsung Hero Of The Franchise"
Hey just wanna say thanks for the site. Love the work in pulling random tidbits like this that I no longer have the time to go and find myself. Site has a well earned spot on my daily rotation.
Re: SuperSega FPGA Console Shown Running Master System, Genesis And Saturn Games
Well spank my arse and call me Charlie. If they actually pull this off…
Re: Here's Your First (Blurry) Look At SuperSega's PCB
They must be shaking with excitement. How hard is it to take a proper photo with sensitive parts redacted? This gonzo photo sh1te reeks of shysterism
Edit:
Video is a bit more revealing at least but I’m too dopey to know if it’s genuine
Re: Don't Hold Your Breath For A Tekken Collection
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Re: Nintendo Is Now Going After YouTube Accounts Which Show Its Games Being Emulated
@Serpenterror I agree with you there. Any time people try to make piracy or preservation (depending on the point of view) available to the layperson it is usually shot down. History has shown this to be true.
I see a grim future for these Chinese devices if they keep bundling SD cards full of games. Well at least in the US and EU markets. The latter has already busted an operation in Italy around this.
Taki Udon should probably observe carefully too a he tries to pitch a console-ised Mister. These attempts to lower barriers to entry generally end poorly. He may inadvertently paint a target on the back of the MisterFpga project.
Re: Nintendo Is Now Going After YouTube Accounts Which Show Its Games Being Emulated
My biggest concern of the modern internet is the centralisation of discussion, media sharing and consumption. It makes them easy targets for aggressive copyright claims. Before it was an impossible game of whack-a-mole for litigious companies.
It’s been going this way since the beginning of the smart phone app based internet unfortunately. A combination of less tech savvy smartphone users and now younger people brought up in a world with walled-garden app-based ecosystems has sadly created an inertia towards having big tech companies be the gatekeepers of online discussion, media creation and consumption.
Instagram(or insert other big corp product here) for photos, YouTube for video hosting, Reddit for forums & Discord for IRC and many more for other avenues. I even see people using telegram for Android custom rom discussions.
It boggles the mind to be honest.
Re: Review: MiSTer Pi - A $99 Gateway To FPGA Retro Gaming
@_Ex_
I generally ignore them ***** elitists and dramatists. They ruin every hobby/interest/community if you pay attention to ‘em.
The draw of Mister for meself is a tiny <15W box that is quite accurate at emulation, feels like a single-use device and is more or less instant-on. Just flick switch turn on controller, and bang, you’re in.
ie. The traditional console experience that Sony and Microsoft would do well to remember.
There are still some major pieces missing, especially around the initial setup which is not trivial, but I’ll give it some leeway there since it’s a community project couched in the dubious area of roms.
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Is In Fatal Fury: City Of The Wolves, For Some Reason
Hopefully he’s the training dummy so we can knock the seven shades of sh1te out of him.
Re: Egads, There's More Drama In The FPGA Retro Gaming Community
Why is this even an article? Put something more positive into the nether next time please. Ya know that amplifying this crap is damaging to the communities in question and therefore is damaging to the well you are dipping from.
In short:
No scraping twitter for sh1te talk. I can do that myself thanks.
Re: This In-Car PS2 Entertainment System Is Giving Us Serious FOMO Vibes, 14 Years Too Late
@MrPeanutbutterz Ha yeah ya got me
Re: This In-Car PS2 Entertainment System Is Giving Us Serious FOMO Vibes, 14 Years Too Late
Class to have but could ya imagine playing any PS2 disc streaming open world game on this yokeeen. You hit one bump in the road, the disc skips and the floor in GTA disappears.
Re: Last Ninja Collection Hits Initial Funding Goal In Just 40 Minutes
@Axelay71 The loss of C64 Last Ninja 2’s “Street Loader” track in any emulated re-release is a very sad loss indeed
Re: Samsung's New Odyssey 3D Monitor Might Be The Ultimate Way To Emulate Nintendo 3DS
@bippity_bop I’d say put away the tinfoil for this iteration. The chip on the monitor usually does the heavy lifting so it can be platform agnostic.
The only OS interface available to it is via video signal (HDMI DVI). Doubt they could send usage data from the monitor back to the OS and circumvent the sandboxing of the OS too without every Linux enthusiast calling their local politician.
Now if it comes with a WiFi chip for wireless mirroring then I will be borrowing your tinfoil thank you very much
Re: Samsung's New Odyssey 3D Monitor Might Be The Ultimate Way To Emulate Nintendo 3DS
Single user eye tracking? Not great, except for it being a good privacy guard.
Also, how is eye fatigue with this? Could make a great migraine factory for those who wanna puke and hallucinate for a day or two
Re: Donkey Kong '94 Gets A 'DX' Game Boy Color Remaster, Thanks To Fans
I appreciate and admire the effort and passion but all of these DX spins remind me of Homer’s makeup shotgun
Re: LemonAmiga & Lemon64 Community Sites Down After Web Attack
These cases are usually not targeted directly by someone. It’s usually bots crawling domains running known security exploits. I used to ask in the past why someone would target such a niche site. It really is eye opening when you host a site and check the apache logs.
The underlying internet sometimes feels like a crack district with desperate crack-heads trying to beat your door down 24 hours a day.
Re: Review: TapTo NFC Loading System - Gives MiSTer FPGA A Vital Physical Connection
@Poodlestargenerica
Be it physical or digital, it’s still boundless consumption and materialism. At least you can measure it this way.
I’d rather my kids browse a tangible, curated catalogue of “physical” (in this respect) games then mindlessly consume another list and appreciate none of it.
Re: Review: TapTo NFC Loading System - Gives MiSTer FPGA A Vital Physical Connection
Can someone tell me what printer, sticker l and cards are needed? I’ve watched and read a few articles on TapTo and this is never mentioned.
Re: Review: MiSTer FPGA - Still The Best Option For Hardcore Retro Gamers In 2024?
@Porco Ahree on the save states. I’ve kept the SNES mini classic around because of that.
Another issue is the saving to sram only when the OSD is opened. Lost progress before with that one. I understand the reason why but it’s still bad UX.
Re: Review: MiSTer FPGA - Still The Best Option For Hardcore Retro Gamers In 2024?
I really don’t give 2 fiddlers about cycle-accuracy and as long as the input latency is acceptable I can get by.
Why me love me Mister ha:
SNES/NES/Psx mini classic are other great devices in that respect. Instant-on & no service/subscription related ***** is the way consoles should be. Sadly lost by these newer “games as a service” consoles.
MiSTer should not be just for enthusiasts IMO. Taki Udon may strike gold if he can get a decent priced all-in-one Mister console going for people who don’t have time to set one up.
Edit:
Weird. I can say bollocks but can’t say s.h.I.t.e above. Strange aul censor.
Re: The Race Is On To Save PSX From The Abyss, And It's Being Led By The Xbox Modding Community
@MysticWangForce Don't know the story with this one but usually these console drives are linked to the console & encrypted with special signing keys. The PSX console may also expect a specific undocumented file-system on the drive too. None of this info would be public and need to be reverse-engineered
Re: 'SuperSega' FPGA Console Will Play Genesis, Master System, Saturn And Dreamcast Games
Take this with a pinch of salt, but only if you can fit an entire North Korean salt mine in your finger-tips.
Edit: But I'm still rooting for anyone who tries a Dreamcast FPGA all the same
Re: Backlash Against $99 MiSTer FPGA Clone's Name Results In Creator Offering Alternatives
The name fits. It IS a Chinese knock-off of a DE10-Nano board after all. Albeit, a high quality knock-off at a great price. I don't think its aimed at general market, it's for those who already know what's being offered.
He has other SKU's for the general market from the looks of it. But, if those are branded as "Mr Pi" then he has himself to blame later
Re: One Of The Web's Oldest ROM Sites Removes Games By Nintendo, Sega And Lego
@ch37x
Back to torrents we go. No harm. That’ll gate iOS emulation users and so may avoid Nintendos wrath due to its intensively whack-a-mole nature.
Re: Soapbox: Here's Why I Can't Ditch Software Emulation Handhelds For The FPGA Analogue Pocket
Have to agree with you. I gave up playing SNES & C64 games on MiSTer because of save states. I don't have the time to restart Super Castlevania or Creatures 1 every time. A hacked Snes mini does the job for those & I can play bit by bit over time and can even rewind SNES save states.
Still amazed that the GBA and PSX MiSTer cores have save states. Robert is a legend.
Re: One Of The Web's Oldest ROM Sites Removes Games By Nintendo, Sega And Lego
"Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem"
Re: Modern Vintage Gamer Digs Into The PS2's Much-Hyped "Emotion Engine"
For impoverished, mid-adolescent nerds like myself who were unsullied by the internet of the time, the Emotion Engine was a magic box of power.
My ignorant self thought it could recreate the entirety of New York in Metal Gear Solid 2 down to the buildings, where every single one was was enter-able, where even the post cards could be destroyed and where the populace could all be fully animated.
That was my expectation for MGS2 after playing the demo. Basically Escape From New York done in the Emotion Engine. You can imagine my disappointment when I first arrived at Big Shell.
That childlike optimism was kinda nice though.
Re: Modern Vintage Gamer Digs Into The PS2's Much-Hyped "Emotion Engine"
@mwatcher The main reason for buying a PS2 was that it followed the PS1