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These sorts of piracy boxes are a dime a dozen, with new ones coming out constantly. They're all pretty underwhelming to be honest.

Wait, this thing is real? I saw it before and thought it was a joke. Lol

It's a cool idea, and even though I wish they had done more systems that interest me personally, I think their problems are largely in trying to do too much at once.

They probably should have focused on a core machine first, then updated it over time.

I am definitely not in the right demographic that this device is appealing to. Which is why I just don't find the game selection all that interesting.

But I do think it's cool that this device exists, and does seem to be getting support. When I first saw it announced, I wrote it off as yet another one and done retro-gimmick that would flop and never get further support.

I am frankly amazed that in the era of software piracy we now live, something like this is selling at all well. Guess it's a reminder that just because a crowd is loud, doesn't mean they're necessarily everywhere.

@Luminous117 I completely agree. But many tend to be extremely similar and forgettable.

There's so much competition in the stolen technology/portable piracy box department these days. There's a new one like every 2-3 weeks it feels like. But they tend to be worse than iPhones in terms of incremental improvements.

Even if it were releasing flawlessly, it doesn't support the game consoles I'd be most interested in.

I would want it to support Game Boy, GBC, GBA, N64 and Gamecube. These are the systems I have a lot of actual physical games for that I'd also want to play and I don't already have half a dozen other platforms that I can get them on very easily.

"before reading on, yes this piece will indeed be talking about the shady practice of using ROMs, so if that kind of discussion brings you out in hives, we'd advise you navigate away from this page immediately"

This was rude and uncalled for. If you the writer cannot handle the honest concerns people have about piracy perhaps you shouldn't be writing a public article like this.

Why should I believe this guy? Does he have any solid proof it's Nintendo's fault? Is there any 3rd party who can verify what he is saying? Why would Phil Spencer say it was a rights issue if Nintendo somehow could put a stop to it?

And frankly, MS doesn't deserve Nintendo, even if they could force a buyout.

These are silly. Far too small and limited. They are gimmicks meant to prey on nostalgic collectors, not playable retro consoles.

The reviews of the unit I have seen have been quite positive but the logistics issues they have had suggest the might need to hire some business types to help actually get the product on the market.

I love the idea of this machine but it doesn't feature the consoles I would most want, N64, Game Boy, GBA and GameCube.

I still really want a Pocket. But... you know.

@JimmySpades Righto dude. Make up whatever nonsense you want.

Does it play N64 and GameCube games? No? Pass.

I find this system to be an interesting idea but it doesn't support the systems I would be most interested in. Let's get an N64 element and a Game Boy/GBA element with the ability to dump the roms to the system and then you'll have me sold.

This is an interesting mod, but I still see it as obviously a means of making piracy easier.

Though it's the kind of piracy I have a hard time complaining about because the vast majority of the GC library has not been released on newer hardware.

Yay! Another Piracy box! These are a dime a dozen! And worthless without piracy!

Thanks NL! Thanks for encouraging us to break the law!

It still baffles me how mobile gaming has developed. How there has never been a successful gaming phone.

I love Nintendo, but if Samsung and Apple had released a line of gaming phones, starting back around 2009ish, the entire market would likely be radically different today.

Now I think mobile gaming it too entrenched in gatcha and touch screen mechanics. But if iPhones and Galaxies had traditional gaming controls, maybe built in, or as an attachable device fully integrated with the firmware (rather than 3rd party things) then mobile gaming would likely have evolved very differently.

Rather than cloud gaming, I wanted this device to support N64, GBA and Game Boy. Just one more step in the wrong direction.

@StevenG It's not a scam. It's a company putting it all together in one neat and tidy package, with custom done software and updates supported. All a person needs to do is buy it and plug it in and they can shelve their old consoles. No messing with ripping games to your PC or buying sketch USB adapters. No special software, no emulator downloads from suspicious host sites, none of that.

This isn't the product for the all in hard core emulator fan, this is for the casual gamer with a closet full of old games they'd love to revisit on a modern TV.

It ain't the best thing ever, but it's not a scam either. At least no as far as I can tell. I've watching NL and MVG for years now, and though they can make mistakes, I don't think either would knowingly push a scam.

You guys are kinda late the ballgame with this one. He posted that video days ago.

Like I've said before, I like the idea of the system, but it doesn't support the retro consoles I'd like to see. Once it has N64, Game Boy, GBA and Gamecube support, then we can talk. PS2 is a start though.

Not for me. I didn't even know the console existed until years later. The first time I saw one, I thought it was an add on for another console that I had never seen.

I'm sure it had/has great games but there is no nostalgic connection for me at all. There is the novelty factor, but that's not worth 100 dollars to me right now.

hmmm for that price, I could buy several more games for my Switch. I think I will do that instead.

F.

I imagine the guy should be famous for a little more than just the cheat code too.

You know what they say: Hindsight is 20/20. They couldn't have known what the future would hold.

Unless it can dump the roms of your games, this holds no interest to me. It would be too bulky to play on the go and there are better options on TV. If I were to buy a clone console, Analogue is the only choice worth considering.

I don't like these mini consoles as a general rule of thumb because I would prefer these collections of games on modern consoles instead - and in fact we have gotten many of these games on Switch already from Sega.

But I have to say the choice of a better controller in Asia is really weird. Even I had the 6 button controller with my Genesis in the US, so it's not like it was some obscure thing in the west.

The issue I always have with these devices is that you still need to pirate the roms or spend a lot of money on a device to dump your own original cartridges - and such devices are hard to come by even if you are willing to spend that money on top of this device.

Okay, I said this before, but, does no one else find it weird that there is no actual pictures of this thing? Just 3D models. Smells like vaporware to me!

Is there an actual image of this device yet? Because it seems like there are nothing but 3D models.

@JayJ Yeah I am just not that interested in the retro classics they have on here. 80s arcade games are well before my time. I grew up with Game Boy, GBA, N64 and Gamecube. That's the nostalgia I have and hope to see more support for. Game Boy and GBA have about 17,000 emulators but like, no decent clone hardware. I'd love a GBA clone that dumps GBA roms from cartridges, but also supports save states and speed up functions, all with a nice 2019 quality mobile screen.

Honestly I would be about 100 times more interested in this device if it were a GBA clone with a modern brightness screen.

I'm just waiting for the inevitable crash that is coming from the market being flooded with 8 and 16 bit clone devices.

Glad some companies are starting to move on to N64 and Sega Saturn.

I'm still waiting for my clone GBA with a killer screen, better speaker and built in speed up and save state functionality.

I mean, seems like a neat idea for a gimmick but... that's all.

I just don't see the appeal to play this over something else I already have access to. And 150 dollars for a black and white screen? I could understand black and white games as a style for the games but... for the device entirely?

I'm just not in the target audience I guess.

If that is all they are launching with, GG.

Not bad games, but I don't think anyone is really gonna go nuts for this thing.

This thing paradoxically makes me think both that it's making really big promises, and yet not quite delivering what I would want.

The website proudly boasts supporting over 30 systems! Wow! What a deal! But in reality that is not really the case. It supports about 7 systems and their various add-ons and peripherals and the international versions of the same system. I don't really think it is right to consider Playstation NA, Playstation Pal and Playstation Japan as 3 different systems, for example.

And what it doesn't support kills it for me personally. No N64, Game Boy/GBA which are the systems I would most want to see on a device like this along with the Mega Drive, Playstation, SNES, NES and the Sega machines.

@Nico07 It's as unique to Nintendo as bottle water is a Coca-Cola company product...

It's most clearly visible in the smartphone industry, with companies outright refusing to support older models. Even when their apps and services could still run on a device with those performance specifications. But car companies, appliance companies, game and PC companies do it too. Countless are the stories of people reporting problems beginning after factory warranties expire and that is no coincidence.

"planned obsolescence" Is indeed a very real and very serious problem I don't see enough people talking about. Companies don't want you to use their products past a few years. It is not a coincidence how many products begin to fail right after the factory warranty expires.

Long gone are the days of lifetime guarantees and products designed to last decades. From game systems to refrigerators to automobiles to smartphones, products are designed to fail after a certain point to push consumers to buy new ones.

Pretty cool that these exist and are of decent quality. Like you guys said, those original controllers aren't gonna last forever.

Though I have to argue, the kind of wealthy people with these crazy awesome game rooms might indeed have rooms big enough where a 10 foot cable isn't enough. lol

It really still amazes me that, with people buying expensive clone hardware like this, that there isn't more official support for retro software and even hardware.

This gives me the feeling of what would happen if you threw Gundam and Fire Emblem in a blender.

And I like that idea! I hope it comes to Switch in some form!

Wait, in-game saves don't work? This thing is absolutely worthless! Take Pokemon Gold for example. You know what happens when you beat the Elite 4? You watch the credits and go back to the title screen. If you have no in-game save, you just lost your entire adventure. Or you reload your save state and cannot progress through the second half of the game.

The lack of GBA and SNES support would also kill any hope for this device for me, but even before that, the lack of support for SAVING GAMES normally, is a complete deal breaker!

Kirkzz makes some cool stuff, but it's really quite silly trying to do as much as he does with such a small operation. He should really stick to niche products with small, but prevalent consumer bases.

@dew12333 Haha, that is reasonable. I actually just traded myself rather often, since the GBA was fully backward compatible as soon as I got a GBA I was able to trade between my own games.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with expressing your hobbies as an adult. My father continued building model cars, collecting Hot Wheels and watching the 1960's "Lost in Space" (for which he had all sorts of collectibles, even dolls of the characters) right up until his health finally stripped those hobbies from him. He was nearly 60 years old.

I despise this idea that once you become an adult you must cast aside your hobbies, or hide them from "normal people". While it's true that society demands a certain level of tact, that doesn't mean you must or should hide what you enjoy. So long as you aren't hurting anyone or yourself then you should be fully able to be yourself at any age.

And SHAME on anyone who tells you otherwise!

I am glad companies are doing this. Now if someone could make an HDMI split box that doesn't suck, I'd be in business.

When using something like an HDMI split box the security feature "handshake" often fails, leading to a picture flickering in and out. It's quite inconsistent and annoying. Sometimes it will be fine for days, even weeks. Other times it will look like a sugar-high kid playing with a light switch... I have encountered this on 2 different TV and with several different boxes.

Still, getting everything to HDMI is great and I hope companies stick with HDMI for a good long time.

So is it actually new? Or just a remake clone system? Intellivision is before my time. I only learned about it thanks to Angry Video Game Nerd back in the day. I've never gotten the impression that a lot of people are nostalgic for it.

I imagine there are some, certainly, but is there really demand for something like this?

Looking forward to when this "Neo-Retro" trend moves a few more years forward and give us N64, Gamecube, and GBA remakes. I'd love a modern clone GBA with a screen like the AGS 101, but with better speakers, wireless headphone support, and a rechargeable battery that uses a USB-C cable to charge.

This system is both offering too much to take it at face value, and yet missing things I would want from a device like this. I want N64, Game Boy and Game Boy Advance support.

But the biggest issue I see happening here is licensing. Do they have permission to support all these platforms? I feel like they could get stuck in legal limbo if any of these companies, Sony, Nintendo, Sega and the rest decide to sue.

I was just thinking recently that will all the NES, Gensis, SNES and other clone systems floating around these days, it's odd how few clone Game Boy and Game Boy Advance systems there are. I recently dumped a decent chunk of cash on a modded GBA and an Everdrive to fill that itch.