Intellivision was a niche video game brand that was around for only about 2 years. The people that remember it are likely in their early 50s-late 60s. Why they ever thought reviving it was a good idea is beyond me.
Tallarico needs to accept the fact the 90s are long gone and he'll never get the same fame he had in his heyday when he was on Saturday morning television.
So many of these games are already on the Switch, not sure why I would want or need this. Most of the mini consoles I have are sitting on my bookshelf now gathering dust. I just would love if Arkanoid, Chase H.Q. and Zookeeper could make it over to the Switch.
This whole disaster is a dumpster fire. Who, exactly, was asking for the return of Intellivison? That console was popular for a year, maybe two, before the crash of 83. No one was clamoring for its return. The Wii was a once in a lifetime success. While it is perhaps my least favorite console ever produced by Nintendo, I can see why it appealed to so many non-gamers. The motion controls, while flawed, were groundbreaking. Wii Sports was easy for anyone to pick up and play. Mobile games were not a thing yet when it came out. It was the right place, at the right time, with the right gimmick, to launch itself to success. The Intellivision was never going to even come close to sniffing that type success.
@Muddy_4_Ever Amico is trying to hit that sweet spot of casual gamers that Nintendo was able to capture with the Wii in 2010. The problem is, that was a once in a lifetime circumstance where everything seemed to fall into place perfectly. Motion controls were exciting and cutting edge, mobile games were not a thing yet and Nintendo's brand cache is up there with the best brands in the business. The only gaming trend right now that I see potentially getting that same response is VR, and that still has a bit of a niche following.
If TenNapel really wants to make some dough off Earthworm Jim, he should just port over a collection of the games to PS4/Xbox/Switch. He'd make a hell of a lot more money off of it than the game will make exclusively on Amico.
Getting casual gamers who normally don't play video games to buy this? Never happening. The motion control fade is over and all the casuals play on their phones/iPads.
I remember this game. It was the reason Charles Barkley was removed from later editions of NBA Jam. NBA Jam/TE Edition and NBA Live 95 were about the only two (three) good basketball games that ever came out for the SNES.
I loved watching Tommy Tallarico on G4 back in the early 2000s. He seems like a really decent human being. Having said all that, this thing is DOA.
1. The Intellivision brand doesn't mean much to most people. It was "popular" for about 2-3 years in the early 80s before the video game crash.
2. My wife is the very definition of a casual gamer. She finds those free-to-play games for her iPhone or iPad, plays them for a few minutes, and then moves on. She has zero interest in my Switch outside the occasional Smash or Mario Kart round with me. That's the market Tommy is trying to penetrate. The Wii broke into it with the motion control gimmick that people burned out on by the end of the console's second year. The only other video gaming trend that might break through to casuals in my opinion is VR, if it gets mainstream acceptability.
3. Exclusives are what sells consoles. Earthworm Jim is not a system seller. It's not Mario, it's not Zelda, it's not Spider Man, it's not Halo. What should be done is an Earthworm Jim collection coming out to PS4, Xbox and Switch with the two 16-bit era games and the new one bundled together. That might end up happening in about a year.
4. The price. This is about $200 more than it should be.
My verdict: it will struggle to sell even a million units.
@TheFox Twitter and social media in general is ridiculous. All this cancelling this, cancelling that, getting mad and angry about EVERYTHING. It's just too much after a while.
Why do some people on this board (and across the Internet in general) get so offended and defensive if people point out the flaws of this console? Same with the Evercade. Sorry, these are niche products that appeal to a very small audience. It's ok for people to say it's overpriced or that it doesn't have great software or it's going to struggle against Switch/PS5/Xbox and here is why. Doesn't mean they WANT that to happen. Hell, Google, the 9th largest company in the world, is basically pulling the plug on Stadia. Amazon, which is bigger than Google, is struggling at figure out how to get into video games. Netflix people are already writing it DOA for video games. Video games is a very, very hard industry to break into and succeed.
$250 is way too much for this thing. And sorry, the people who will be appealed by the brand of "Intellivision" are now in their mid to late 50s-60s. Likely their kids have grown up and are having their own kids who will want a Switch, PS5 or Xbox over this thing. Finnegan Fox and Earthworm Jim are not even in the same universe as Mario, Zelda, Spiderman or Halo in being system sellers. It might benefit a little from the chip shortage causing supply issues for modern consoles, but I doubt this thing will even do Wii U numbers.
I had it for the NES and SNES. I used it a lot for the NES, due to the number of games on that platform that had unfair, brutal difficulty. I didn't used it much for SNES. By that point, the difficulty level for games was much more fair.
And I always roll my eyes when moralistic types come on these boards and preach about "purity in gaming." What the hell does that mean? Let people play the games they want to play and enjoy gaming the way they want to enjoy it. If playing match 3 on a phone is what floats their boat, fine. If they can only game playing 60FPS AAA exclusives, fine. I'm so tired of the judging nature by many of this hobby that is suppose to be fun.
You'd think with how big video games are these days, we'd get another game show based on them, but the last one was Nick Arcade from way back in 1992. The only really great game show based on video games here the states was Starcade from 1982-1984. It had a good host in Geoff Edwards, contestants of all ages, showed off a great variety of games, and was centered around game playing and game knowledge. Video Power and Nick Arcade were both flawed and are pretty unwatchable.
I'm one of those people who bought Bubble Bobble 4 Friends specifically so I could have the arcade version on my Switch. I couldn't care less about the "new" version of the game.
I would have rather Taito just put it on Arcade Archives or something, but it is one of my favorite games of all time, so I got it.
My Switch is turning into the best "golden age arcade" I've ever had. If only Midway/Williams/Atari Games put out a collection of their games...
How many of these will honestly sell? Between the mini consoles, emulation and modding an Xbox/Wii, it seems we're hitting a saturation point for demand for retro gaming.
@brunojenso I don't mean there will no retro market, but it's going to look a lot different. Young gamers are completely different in how they game than we were. I know because I watch how my nieces and nephews play games and how kids play them these days. Online gaming is so big now and these kids like games where they can play with and against their friends. And they really don't care about graphics, they care about where they can play, which is why the Switch is so popular with younger gamers. Single player campaign games are more becoming something adults do more than kids. They just don't have the attachment to buying physical games or playing a game, beating it, and moving on to the next game that kids did when I was a kid. It's changing.
I just don't play enough retro games for this to interest me. I have a solid collection of them on my Switch, mini consoles and Wii U VC games, but I find myself playing new games more often.
I wonder how much longer retro gaming is going to be a thing. Young gamers really don't even collect games anymore. They play about three or four games (Fortnite, Minecraft, Robolox, Call of Duty) and it's a lot different than when I was a kid, you played a game, beat it and moved on to the next game. With the rise of digital and streaming as well, once older millennials enter their 50s-60s (they are in their late 30s-early 40s now), will there be a retro gaming market?
What is Sega anymore? I'd say a third party developer and publisher, but are they even that anymore besides the occasional Sonic title and every once in a while something like Yakuza? Seems like now they are content on releasing obscure things like this and sometimes a game or two.
I think I'm done with having interest in minis. After noticing how I played them for about three days and then put them on my book shelf to look at, I'd rather just have the games I want to play available via the Switch eShop.
I get it this is a very popular series, but just never got into it. The NES version is a nightmare, the arcade version is a quarter eating bout of frustration, the super NES version is ok but again very frustrating. Happy for fans though who are excited about the new game.
We're close to hitting peak nostalgia with the NES and arcade titles, in particular as more and more millennials and Gen-Zers have no experience with either.
There will always be a market for both, but it'll likely be shrinking.
I'm just holding out hope that we can finally see Midway/Atari arcade games from the 80s-90s on the Switch in some form. I'd also like to see Arkanoid come to Arcade Archives from Taito and Rare Replay finally ported over.
Pass. Most of these games are already on the Switch in some way shape or form. Also points off for not getting arcade perfect ports of these titles. I love my older games (play lots of Pac-Man and Frogger on my Switch), but I'm far from a nostalgia gamer, and I know that market's hot, so I think this just doesn't fit what I'm looking for, similar to how I have zero interest in Arcade 1-UP cabinets and would rather just have arcade titles continue to be ported onto the Switch.
Likely this one won't be out for a while in North America (I pre ordered it for the initial March release, now Amazon says December, but they clarified that was just a placeholder). The mini consoles are fun collector items, but after playing them for a little bit, I find myself going back to my Switch. Except for the SNES mini and Earthbound. That one did get a lot of attention from me.
Of all the consoles I own, the Super Nintendo has been the most reliable and most functional over time. Besides that horrid yellowing that happens to the outside casing, it works just like it did in 1991.
I play the Switch 80% of the time in dock mode. When I take it to work and play it on my break, I'm very careful of how hard I use it. It still works very well and very little wear and tear as far as I can tell.
If you remove the 10NES chip and replace the 72 pin connector with one that doesn't require being pushed down, you end up with a much more reliable NES machine.
I had two original NES models and both ended up being unreliable and eventually wearing down permanently. I got a top loading NES back in college at a used game shop and it worked flawlessly, but now I don’t have a TV that it works on anymore. I don’t play retro games enough to do all the work to refurbish the consoles. The NES and SNES Classics do a good job itching the retro scratch, and my VC collection on my Wii U and the retro collections on Switch are filling in the gaps. I just don’t have the time to play all these games and my backlog is already full of current titles I want to play. However, I tried my parents old Atari 2600 a few months ago when helping clean out the house and it worked remarkably well.
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Re: Intellivision's Offices Are Now Empty And Available, If You Want Them
Intellivision was a niche video game brand that was around for only about 2 years. The people that remember it are likely in their early 50s-late 60s. Why they ever thought reviving it was a good idea is beyond me.
Tallarico needs to accept the fact the 90s are long gone and he'll never get the same fame he had in his heyday when he was on Saturday morning television.
Re: Hardware: The Taito Egret II Mini Is A Doorway Into True Gaming History
So many of these games are already on the Switch, not sure why I would want or need this. Most of the mini consoles I have are sitting on my bookshelf now gathering dust. I just would love if Arkanoid, Chase H.Q. and Zookeeper could make it over to the Switch.
Re: Intellivision Admits Its Wii-Like Amico Console May Never See Release
Tommy could probably get a job at the new G4 network. It needs all the help it can get right now.
As for Earthworm Jim, bundle the new game with the classics and release it as a collection for Switch, PS4, Xbox and PC.
Re: Intellivision Admits Its Wii-Like Amico Console May Never See Release
This whole disaster is a dumpster fire. Who, exactly, was asking for the return of Intellivison? That console was popular for a year, maybe two, before the crash of 83. No one was clamoring for its return. The Wii was a once in a lifetime success. While it is perhaps my least favorite console ever produced by Nintendo, I can see why it appealed to so many non-gamers. The motion controls, while flawed, were groundbreaking. Wii Sports was easy for anyone to pick up and play. Mobile games were not a thing yet when it came out. It was the right place, at the right time, with the right gimmick, to launch itself to success. The Intellivision was never going to even come close to sniffing that type success.
Re: Save Yourself The Bother Of Completing NES Games With This New Book
Another way of seeing the endings of NES games is YouTube.
Re: Hardware Review: Evercade VS - A Low-Cost Gateway To Past Nintendo Classics And Much More Besides
@Muddy_4_Ever Amico is trying to hit that sweet spot of casual gamers that Nintendo was able to capture with the Wii in 2010. The problem is, that was a once in a lifetime circumstance where everything seemed to fall into place perfectly. Motion controls were exciting and cutting edge, mobile games were not a thing yet and Nintendo's brand cache is up there with the best brands in the business. The only gaming trend right now that I see potentially getting that same response is VR, and that still has a bit of a niche following.
Re: Hardware Review: Evercade VS - A Low-Cost Gateway To Past Nintendo Classics And Much More Besides
Happy for those interested in this, but the Switch more than covers my need for retro gaming, as does my collection of mini consoles.
Re: The Intellivision Amico Has A Unique Approach To Physical Media And Digital Ownership
If TenNapel really wants to make some dough off Earthworm Jim, he should just port over a collection of the games to PS4/Xbox/Switch. He'd make a hell of a lot more money off of it than the game will make exclusively on Amico.
Re: The Intellivision Amico Has A Unique Approach To Physical Media And Digital Ownership
So much hype for something we still have yet to see even a smidge of evidence about.
Re: Intellivision's Wii-Like Amico Console Gets Delayed For A Third Time
A better bet would have been an Earthworm Jim Collection (1, 2, 3 and the new game 4) on Switch, PS4 and Xbox.
Re: Intellivision's Wii-Like Amico Console Gets Delayed For A Third Time
Getting casual gamers who normally don't play video games to buy this? Never happening. The motion control fade is over and all the casuals play on their phones/iPads.
Re: After Months Of Silence, Polymega Insists Pre-Orders Are Shipping Soon
Just mod a Raspberry Pi, hack an NES Classic, or better yet, find a Wii at a Goodwill and presto! You have a machine that can play all the classics.
Re: Random: What Happens When You Remove Charles Barkley From His Own Video Game?
I remember this game. It was the reason Charles Barkley was removed from later editions of NBA Jam. NBA Jam/TE Edition and NBA Live 95 were about the only two (three) good basketball games that ever came out for the SNES.
Re: Feature: Intellivision's Tommy Tallarico Wants To Follow In Nintendo's Footsteps, But Will He Get His Chance?
I loved watching Tommy Tallarico on G4 back in the early 2000s. He seems like a really decent human being. Having said all that, this thing is DOA.
1. The Intellivision brand doesn't mean much to most people. It was "popular" for about 2-3 years in the early 80s before the video game crash.
2. My wife is the very definition of a casual gamer. She finds those free-to-play games for her iPhone or iPad, plays them for a few minutes, and then moves on. She has zero interest in my Switch outside the occasional Smash or Mario Kart round with me. That's the market Tommy is trying to penetrate. The Wii broke into it with the motion control gimmick that people burned out on by the end of the console's second year. The only other video gaming trend that might break through to casuals in my opinion is VR, if it gets mainstream acceptability.
3. Exclusives are what sells consoles. Earthworm Jim is not a system seller. It's not Mario, it's not Zelda, it's not Spider Man, it's not Halo. What should be done is an Earthworm Jim collection coming out to PS4, Xbox and Switch with the two 16-bit era games and the new one bundled together. That might end up happening in about a year.
4. The price. This is about $200 more than it should be.
My verdict: it will struggle to sell even a million units.
Re: Intellivision's Amico Is Shaping Up To Be The Most 'Nintendo' Non-Nintendo System Ever
@TheFox Twitter and social media in general is ridiculous. All this cancelling this, cancelling that, getting mad and angry about EVERYTHING. It's just too much after a while.
Re: Intellivision's Amico Is Shaping Up To Be The Most 'Nintendo' Non-Nintendo System Ever
Why do some people on this board (and across the Internet in general) get so offended and defensive if people point out the flaws of this console? Same with the Evercade. Sorry, these are niche products that appeal to a very small audience. It's ok for people to say it's overpriced or that it doesn't have great software or it's going to struggle against Switch/PS5/Xbox and here is why. Doesn't mean they WANT that to happen. Hell, Google, the 9th largest company in the world, is basically pulling the plug on Stadia. Amazon, which is bigger than Google, is struggling at figure out how to get into video games. Netflix people are already writing it DOA for video games. Video games is a very, very hard industry to break into and succeed.
Re: Intellivision's Amico Is Shaping Up To Be The Most 'Nintendo' Non-Nintendo System Ever
$250 is way too much for this thing. And sorry, the people who will be appealed by the brand of "Intellivision" are now in their mid to late 50s-60s. Likely their kids have grown up and are having their own kids who will want a Switch, PS5 or Xbox over this thing. Finnegan Fox and Earthworm Jim are not even in the same universe as Mario, Zelda, Spiderman or Halo in being system sellers. It might benefit a little from the chip shortage causing supply issues for modern consoles, but I doubt this thing will even do Wii U numbers.
Re: Feature: The Story Of The Game Genie, The Cheat Device Nintendo Tried (And Failed) To Kill
Game Genies destroyed the 72 pin connector on many NES systems. This already faulty device was made even more fragile with the Game Genie.
Re: Feature: The Story Of The Game Genie, The Cheat Device Nintendo Tried (And Failed) To Kill
I had it for the NES and SNES. I used it a lot for the NES, due to the number of games on that platform that had unfair, brutal difficulty. I didn't used it much for SNES. By that point, the difficulty level for games was much more fair.
And I always roll my eyes when moralistic types come on these boards and preach about "purity in gaming." What the hell does that mean? Let people play the games they want to play and enjoy gaming the way they want to enjoy it. If playing match 3 on a phone is what floats their boat, fine. If they can only game playing 60FPS AAA exclusives, fine. I'm so tired of the judging nature by many of this hobby that is suppose to be fun.
Re: New Book Charts The Anarchic Life Of GamesMaster, The UK's Biggest Video Game TV Show
You'd think with how big video games are these days, we'd get another game show based on them, but the last one was Nick Arcade from way back in 1992. The only really great game show based on video games here the states was Starcade from 1982-1984. It had a good host in Geoff Edwards, contestants of all ages, showed off a great variety of games, and was centered around game playing and game knowledge. Video Power and Nick Arcade were both flawed and are pretty unwatchable.
Re: Would You Just Look At This Tiny Bubble Bobble Arcade Machine
I'm one of those people who bought Bubble Bobble 4 Friends specifically so I could have the arcade version on my Switch. I couldn't care less about the "new" version of the game.
I would have rather Taito just put it on Arcade Archives or something, but it is one of my favorite games of all time, so I got it.
My Switch is turning into the best "golden age arcade" I've ever had. If only Midway/Williams/Atari Games put out a collection of their games...
Re: Polymega Release "Still On Track" Despite Production Problems
How many of these will honestly sell? Between the mini consoles, emulation and modding an Xbox/Wii, it seems we're hitting a saturation point for demand for retro gaming.
Re: Hardware Review: MiSTer FPGA - A Tantalising Glimpse Into The Future Of Retro Gaming
@brunojenso I don't mean there will no retro market, but it's going to look a lot different. Young gamers are completely different in how they game than we were. I know because I watch how my nieces and nephews play games and how kids play them these days. Online gaming is so big now and these kids like games where they can play with and against their friends. And they really don't care about graphics, they care about where they can play, which is why the Switch is so popular with younger gamers. Single player campaign games are more becoming something adults do more than kids. They just don't have the attachment to buying physical games or playing a game, beating it, and moving on to the next game that kids did when I was a kid. It's changing.
Re: Hardware Review: MiSTer FPGA - A Tantalising Glimpse Into The Future Of Retro Gaming
I just don't play enough retro games for this to interest me. I have a solid collection of them on my Switch, mini consoles and Wii U VC games, but I find myself playing new games more often.
I wonder how much longer retro gaming is going to be a thing. Young gamers really don't even collect games anymore. They play about three or four games (Fortnite, Minecraft, Robolox, Call of Duty) and it's a lot different than when I was a kid, you played a game, beat it and moved on to the next game. With the rise of digital and streaming as well, once older millennials enter their 50s-60s (they are in their late 30s-early 40s now), will there be a retro gaming market?
Re: Hardware Review: Sega Astro City Mini - An Esoteric Way To Mark 60 Years In The Business
What is Sega anymore? I'd say a third party developer and publisher, but are they even that anymore besides the occasional Sonic title and every once in a while something like Yakuza? Seems like now they are content on releasing obscure things like this and sometimes a game or two.
I think I'm done with having interest in minis. After noticing how I played them for about three days and then put them on my book shelf to look at, I'd rather just have the games I want to play available via the Switch eShop.
Re: Feature: The Haunting History Of Capcom's Ghosts 'n Goblins Series
@TheWingedAvenger Ghouls 'n Ghosts also came out for the TG-16.
Re: Feature: The Haunting History Of Capcom's Ghosts 'n Goblins Series
I get it this is a very popular series, but just never got into it. The NES version is a nightmare, the arcade version is a quarter eating bout of frustration, the super NES version is ok but again very frustrating. Happy for fans though who are excited about the new game.
Re: Hardware Review: Evercade - Can A 100% Physical Media Console Really Work In 2020?
We're close to hitting peak nostalgia with the NES and arcade titles, in particular as more and more millennials and Gen-Zers have no experience with either.
There will always be a market for both, but it'll likely be shrinking.
Re: Hardware Review: Evercade - Can A 100% Physical Media Console Really Work In 2020?
I'm just holding out hope that we can finally see Midway/Atari arcade games from the 80s-90s on the Switch in some form. I'd also like to see Arkanoid come to Arcade Archives from Taito and Rare Replay finally ported over.
Re: Hardware Review: Evercade - Can A 100% Physical Media Console Really Work In 2020?
Pass. Most of these games are already on the Switch in some way shape or form. Also points off for not getting arcade perfect ports of these titles. I love my older games (play lots of Pac-Man and Frogger on my Switch), but I'm far from a nostalgia gamer, and I know that market's hot, so I think this just doesn't fit what I'm looking for, similar to how I have zero interest in Arcade 1-UP cabinets and would rather just have arcade titles continue to be ported onto the Switch.
Re: Hardware Review: PC Engine Mini - Still An Acquired Taste, Even After 30 Years
Likely this one won't be out for a while in North America (I pre ordered it for the initial March release, now Amazon says December, but they clarified that was just a placeholder). The mini consoles are fun collector items, but after playing them for a little bit, I find myself going back to my Switch. Except for the SNES mini and Earthbound. That one did get a lot of attention from me.
Re: This Exclusive Evercade Console Is Looking Pretty In Black
Hard pass. Just put classic arcade games on the Switch.
Re: Feature: Your Beloved Games Console Is Slowly But Surely Dying
Of all the consoles I own, the Super Nintendo has been the most reliable and most functional over time. Besides that horrid yellowing that happens to the outside casing, it works just like it did in 1991.
Re: Feature: Your Beloved Games Console Is Slowly But Surely Dying
I play the Switch 80% of the time in dock mode. When I take it to work and play it on my break, I'm very careful of how hard I use it. It still works very well and very little wear and tear as far as I can tell.
Re: Feature: Your Beloved Games Console Is Slowly But Surely Dying
If you remove the 10NES chip and replace the 72 pin connector with one that doesn't require being pushed down, you end up with a much more reliable NES machine.
Re: Feature: Your Beloved Games Console Is Slowly But Surely Dying
I had two original NES models and both ended up being unreliable and eventually wearing down permanently. I got a top loading NES back in college at a used game shop and it worked flawlessly, but now I don’t have a TV that it works on anymore. I don’t play retro games enough to do all the work to refurbish the consoles. The NES and SNES Classics do a good job itching the retro scratch, and my VC collection on my Wii U and the retro collections on Switch are filling in the gaps. I just don’t have the time to play all these games and my backlog is already full of current titles I want to play. However, I tried my parents old Atari 2600 a few months ago when helping clean out the house and it worked remarkably well.